TRG-22 in 308.- Which scope and why?

I had a Nightforce NSX w./ Zero Stop option for a couple of years. I then went to a S&B PMII and never looked back. Mount is a NEAR Alphamount

Bear minimum I would put a Leupold MK4 . Problem with MK4 is price has crept up over the years to a point where you might as well step up to a NSX

The S&B PMII by design have Zero stop ( both single and double turns ). The MK4 w/ M3 knobs are zero stop but are too coarse for my liking . The Hensoldt do not have true zero stop. The PMII Double Turn has best of both worlds, fine adjustment and zero stop. A USO w/ EREK is by design has fine adjustment and since its one turn, you can't get lost on turns

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Sightron SIII 8-32X56...Side by side with my NF BR 8-32X56...Sightron are 1/2 price NF
and very small difference in sharpness and clarity at 200 yards and a better FOV than NF.I love them both,but $ speaks...
 
DeRK said:
S&B PMII, because you spent like what? $4k on the rifle? dont be a cheapass now, get the S&B.
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I agree, this is what I purchased for my TRG-22. Though in the original post the author didn't state whether or not he had a 22 or a 42, I don't believe.

I ended up purchasing my PMII in a 3-12x50 from Wolverine Supplies.
 
S+B PM series of scopes are overpriced in my humble opinion.
The NXS series is one of the best bangs for the buck.
I'd recommend the 5.5x22 x50 with MLR reticle, although mine wears a 3.5x15 x56.
 
I run a S&B PM2. Sorry Belt but a NXS compared to S&B is not really a comparison at all. Nightforce has slowly implemented all the same features as S&B but the prices have crept up into the same range as the S&B with the glass sometimes being hit or miss with the NXS - I have personally looked through a couple of NXS 56mm obj and was not impressed with how dark and grainy they started to look which is why I just passed them over for the S&B. Here is my S&B PM2 on my .338 LM

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Leupold Mark 4 is really the lowest you should go. mine now wears a NXS 3.5-15 after a Mark 4 and S&B. NF gives up very little to S&B for the price, ask guys in the field who really use them as they were intended to be used and you will quickly find out that NF goes head to head with S&B. Like Mercedes in the 90's they lived on their past reputation and the QC dropped dramatically, now days NF is as good as S&B, may start a war here, but its quite honestly the field truth. Having said all that min of $1500 plus nearly 500 for a mount or Talley Tactical mounts for $200 may work on that 11mm rail unless you have the picatinny raill all ready. for a load 44.5gr of varget pushing 168 grain bullets is giving me 1/2" groups at 100M and I just shoot off a bipod, out of a gun vice those groups would tighten right up. Don't be afraid to buy used glass, the good stuff is so well made its hardly ever damaged. I bought a 30 year old S&B spotting scope that is dynomite!!!! Wouldn't trade it for the best of swarovski.
 
So much depends on budget. IMO a 4200 Elite Tactical 6x24x50 would be entry level for this rifle. If moving up in price, I would pass on the Elite 6500 series ( I have one and the price differential isn't warranted over the 4200 series ) and consider a Sightron - very sharp, clear glass and many people are very happy with their products. Moving up again in price I would go for the Nightforce NXS over the Mk 4 and most others.

Mine wears a NXS 8x32x56 with MLR reticle and I am very happy with it.
 
forgot to answer why. Mine has a NF 3.5-15x50 as I don't shoot much out to 1000 yards, 600 yards and under so I don't need super high power and the lower power gives me a better field of view yet 15 power is enough to aim at penny size dots i place on targets at 100 and 200M. Its crystal clear glass, the turrets work great, return to zero is exact and repeatable, has an illuminated reticle which I on occasion like and find handy, is bullet proof and suits the rifle perfectly. reticle is the np-1rr whic allows me to range easily to distance when needed (last deer I shot was 630 yards and the equipment allowed me to do so responsibly.) I could put a S&B or 12K hensold on it but don't need to. NF NXS is perfect for the 308.
 
I'm shooting an NXS 5.5-22x56mm. and couldn't be happier with the performance of the scope. I wouldn't jump on a Mark 4 when for very little more you gain 25 MOA in vertical adjustment with the NXS. Even the VX3 LR from Leupold has more adjustment than a Mark 4. (94 compared to 75)
 
Dizzy: Not getting into a pissing match but what are you basing your comments on? The S&B is used by many Sniper Units - USMC/Canada are good examples. They run their rifles hard and I haven't heard of problems with field use of the S&B.

The NXS is a good scope but it is not in the same class as the S&B. It is definitely a step up from the Leupold but only because of their reticle options and turret options. Leupold is starting to creep into the NXS territory but really the coatings on their glass are pretty comparable and Leupold is starting to improve their turret options.

I am not a S&B fanboy - I only have 1x S&B but facts are still facts. S&B is a superior scope to the NXS. I have numerous Leupolds and they are fine scopes but they are no S&B. NF is the same - great scopes but definitely not comparable to a S&B.
 
Glock4ever said:
I run a S&B PM2. Sorry Belt but a NXS compared to S&B is not really a comparison at all.
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I agree with you the S&B scopes are better than what the NXS line offers, I just don't believe they are worth what they retail for.


Glock4ever said:
Nightforce has slowly implemented all the same features as S&B but the prices have crept up into the same range as the S&B
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I haven't spent any real time comparing the two, but I haven't seen the prices in the same ballpark. One can find an NXS 3.5x15 or 5.5x22 for around $1700 and the S&Bs go for around a thousand more?
 
Belt: Add front focal and zero stop and you will be well past 1700 (I think they were running in the mid 2k range) - also consider that you are comparing a 5.5-22x56 to a 5-25x56mm - if you consider that the coatings are superior and that the 5x magnification (vs 4x Mag), the NXS isn't a super deal; not that any of the high end scopes are :). I was just glad that I was able to pick up my PM2 when it was still in the 2700 dollar range instead of the price jump that Wolverine has now on them - mind you at that time the NXS didn't have zero stop or front focal either...

Like I mentioned before, the NXS is a great scope but in my opinion once you break 2k for a scope you are decisively committed and you might as well go all the way... Is the PM2 worth what I paid? I personally think so but that opinion is pretty subjective :) but then I also don't think Perazzi Over/Unders aren't worth 20k either but the guys that own them probably do...
 
Glock4ever said:
Dizzy: Not getting into a pissing match but what are you basing your comments on? The S&B is used by many Sniper Units - USMC/Canada are good examples. They run their rifles hard and I haven't heard of problems with field use of the S&B.

The NXS is a good scope but it is not in the same class as the S&B. It is definitely a step up from the Leupold but only because of their reticle options and turret options. Leupold is starting to creep into the NXS territory but really the coatings on their glass are pretty comparable and Leupold is starting to improve their turret options.

I am not a S&B fanboy - I only have 1x S&B but facts are still facts. S&B is a superior scope to the NXS. I have numerous Leupolds and they are fine scopes but they are no S&B. NF is the same - great scopes but definitely not comparable to a S&B.
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My spotting scope is a Schmidt and Bender, love it, have no bones to pick with the brand. I am not in the least bit biased towards any brand, just posting information that I have gathered from experience either direct or indirect.
 
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