Tricked out 10/22 vs factory cz455 varmint

[Tom E Gun]

I have a "tricked out" 10/22 and a mostly stock CZ455:

The CZ passed the 5 x 1/2" groups at 50 yd challenge with ease, while the 10/22 has never successfully completed the challenge despite several dozen attempts. The 10/22 can shoot groups that average 1/2" at 50 yds without issue, but can't keep them all under 1/2" in its current configuration. The CZ and scope barely cost more than the scope on the 10/22, but is by far the more accurate and consistent rifle.

 

[RabidM4U5]

interesting conversation going on.
probably not gonna help the OP much but i like it!

To the OP: Well from those that have gone the 10/22 super build route they say $1500 price tag on performance equivalent to your stock CZ. The value in this is if you enjoy a great deal of DIY (I wouldn't pay a smith to do anything on that kinda build as long as a lathe isn't involved nothing I can't handle myself.) so it's a fun personal build project but realistically the accuracy isn't going to shoot the lights out (compared to customizing a bolt gun). Personally I just don't enjoy shooting a semi-auto as much as a bolt gun so I would never consider a 10/22 build on this basis alone.

You say "best group" of 3/8", what's it usually shoot like? I've gotten a "best group" under 1/8" with my Savage but I like to call it a 0.4"-0.6" rifle.

So, you could sell the 10/22 and put the money towards a match grade blank for the CZ, have it custom fitted and stock bedded for under $1500 and end up with a super sweet CZ rifle that will perform better than most Annie 64's. Sell both the 10/22 and CZ buy an Annie and get slightly more reliable accuracy than the current stock CZ, but also a rifle with exquisite fit, finish and trigger out of the box.

The "value" of customizing a CZ in Canada is not even close to what it is in the USA. $300 to the government for the pleasure of importing the barrel. On a $400 USD barrel, that is just disgusting and eats the money that would have gone to the smith, trigger upgrade and possibly stock. If you can DIY everything but the barrel fitment then there is "fun" value in doing this work.

The discussion is getting pretty advanced, but here are my 2 cents,

I personally own a CZ 455 Thumbhole Grey (factory everything) and am satisfied with the accuracy I am getting with SK Standard Plus. I am still trying different ammo and am far from an elite shooter, but for the sake of comparison, here's the best four 5 shots groups I had yesterday at the 50 yards range, 10x scope, with bipod and rear sandbag:

Man, if my CZ performed like that with the factory barrel the madness I'm going through would not have happened. I still would have bedded it just cuz that's stuff I like to do and tinker with. Great groups for a 10X scope and it's possibly the bi-pod you're fighting against. It "hops" on a hard bench surface so you can try something like putting a folded towel underneath the legs of the bi-pod. Here's a thread to read http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=734193&highlight=bipod+technique

 

[enefgee]

Blaze Total: $1467.03
Receiver (Dlask) 206.79
Barrel 18.5” (Dlask) 194.13
Stock Blaze Pro Varmint (Boyd) 269.42
Compensator XB5 (Dlask) 67.78
Bolt Scalloped (Kidd) 172.40
Charging Handle (Kidd) 56.30
Buffer Bolt (Kidd) 14.99
Trigger 2 Stage (Kidd) 378.90
V Block (Dlask) 30.45
Trigger Pins (Dlask) 20.12
Stock Pin (hex head) (Dlask) 6.06
Receiver Cross Pins Threaded (Kidd) 49.69

your optics will of course be on top of that so figure in another $500-$800 depending on how nice you wanna go.

Not a single Ruger part on her - reminds me of a custom "Harley" I saw once - Harley part count "zero".

 

[wayupnorth]

Not a single Ruger part on her - reminds me of a custom "Harley" I saw once - Harley part count "zero".

sad thing is it started by me adding a couple parts to my 1984 Ruger 10/22.
once i hit the threshold of parts and realized i only needed a couple more to remake the original gun, so i did.
so then i had 2 10/22's.
of course when you have 2 of them in your safe they breed and next thing you know you have a dozen of the bastards!

 

[Chilly807]

of course when you have 2 of them in your safe they breed and next thing you know you have a dozen of the bastards!

Wish you hadn't mentioned that, I have 2 CZs now, a 452 and a 455... I may end up with a baby 457!

 

[RabidM4U5]

Good thing my 455 was neutered...

 

[jimmyc]

The 10/22's are fun to shoot once you get them shooting well. I have several good shooting bolts so to have an accurate semi was something I wanted. I can't remember all of my costs because I did this years ago but I'm sure I spent at least a grand all in.

Don't do it if you are that tight on cash and want the most accurate you can get. For the same or less, better off with a bolt gun IMO.

Factory 10/22 with a Kidd barrel, Kidd 2 stage trigger, VQ extractor in an Archangel stock.

Recent attempt at the 50 yard challenge.

Looks like Brokenhead River Game and Fish...

 

[Toolman]

Looks like Brokenhead River Game and Fish...

Yup, I'm there quite a lot. Say hello if you see me.