Trigger like a glock?

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What other firearms are out there with 'safe action' triggers similar to a glock, m&p, ppq or sd9ve.
Preferably in the sub $1200 range. I know the sd9ve wouldn't be avail here without a Canadian length barrel but I still welcome suggestions as low as a 3.54" barrel.


Second question...can this style of trigger be installed aftermarket on some guns? If so, which?

Thanks!
 
S&W M&P series, Ruger SR9, Styer LA1, Caracal, and a few others have the blade type "trigger safety".

Guns aren't plug and play, so no, generally you can't install a Glock style trigger in other pistols.

I have a different view of Glock triggers than most; I treat them as having no mechanical safety. The "safe action" trigger is a joke and a bare minimum of protection against a negligent shooter. Glock triggers and others of the ilk are relatively light, and in the hands of general pistol shooting population the Glock should be treated like a coiled snake.

This issue is compounded by the general shooter who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn if they were in it. So what do they do? Blame the "heavy" Glock trigger and put a LIGHTER connector in the gun......sheesh.

I love the pistol for it's simplicity and reliability, but damn, it's not the gun I would recommend to a novice shooter.
 
Do you happen to know off hand which few others have a similar style of trigger safety?

Not specifically looking to drop in a glock trigger into others, but more so to see if there were others out there that I could put an after market 'trigger safety' in. The m&p is likely going to be the final choice but would like to see all my options and hopefully not be limited to a few.

Thank you.
 
The Sig P320 is available with a Glock style trigger, or the standard trigger (smooth face, basically a "don't shoot yourself" trigger). Essentially, I agree with Clobb on the Glock and M&P triggers - if you're a person who's trigger finger tends to "migrate" (cowboy action shooters are experts at this, because for many of them the trigger isn't what makes it go bang) a Glock with a 3 pound trigger is a first class way to reduce your ability to count to 20. My M&P is equally a candidate for this, so strict - make that absolute - trigger and muzzle discipline are essential when running that gun on courses, or around groups of shooters in tight quarters. With striker guns, I like to see guys with a "James Yeager" approach - the trigger finger is basically pointing upward, so you can see right through the guard from a distance.
 
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Not much more to add to the discussion other than to agree with clobb and enefgee. I've recently changed how I present my glock (or any pistol), with my trigger finger up and touching into the ejector port. Something Southnarc showed me about the glock resonated with me and have been doing this ever since. Especially when having to draw from within a vehicle or extreme close quarters.
 
Clobbersauras said:
S&W M&P series, Ruger SR9, Styer LA1, Caracal, and a few others have the blade type "trigger safety".

Guns aren't plug and play, so no, generally you can't install a Glock style trigger in other pistols.

I have a different view of Glock triggers than most; I treat them as having no mechanical safety. The "safe action" trigger is a joke and a bare minimum of protection against a negligent shooter. Glock triggers and others of the ilk are relatively light, and in the hands of general pistol shooting population the Glock should be treated like a coiled snake.

This issue is compounded by the general shooter who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn if they were in it. So what do they do? Blame the "heavy" Glock trigger and put a LIGHTER connector in the gun......sheesh.

I love the pistol for it's simplicity and reliability, but damn, it's not the gun I would recommend to a novice shooter.
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And I thought I was the only one that felt this way...I really like my Double/Single action pistols and glad I had my 59 and 639 for my holster course. I cringe at the idea of a Glock with one up the spout in a holster...
 
Unfortunately the choices I'm limited to are in thanks to the CFO rather than personal preference.

Semi auto,
9mm/40s&w
8lb+ trigger and "all of the safety features of which are housed within or part of the trigger system"
3.54-5.11" barrel
Night sights
Slide locks open after last round
External device that allows slide to be locked open manually
 
brody125 said:
Unfortunately the choices I'm limited to are in thanks to the CFO rather than personal preference.

Semi auto,
9mm/40s&w
8lb+ trigger and "all of the safety features of which are housed within or part of the trigger system"
3.54-5.11" barrel
Night sights
Slide locks open after last round
External device that allows slide to be locked open manually
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Working gun? Not allowed a Double/single with hammer drop?
 
Clobbersauras said:
S&W M&P series, Ruger SR9, Styer LA1, Caracal, and a few others have the blade type "trigger safety".

Guns aren't plug and play, so no, generally you can't install a Glock style trigger in other pistols.

I have a different view of Glock triggers than most; I treat them as having no mechanical safety. The "safe action" trigger is a joke and a bare minimum of protection against a negligent shooter. Glock triggers and others of the ilk are relatively light, and in the hands of general pistol shooting population the Glock should be treated like a coiled snake.

This issue is compounded by the general shooter who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn if they were in it. So what do they do? Blame the "heavy" Glock trigger and put a LIGHTER connector in the gun......sheesh.

I love the pistol for it's simplicity and reliability, but damn, it's not the gun I would recommend to a novice shooter.
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I feel the same way, except for any of the DA/SA guns.

Nothing like a dual operating system to confuse new shooters (is it safe? I dunno?) Which button to i press to make it safe? Oh nevermind, i'll just run around the course with the hammer back.

Nothing like watching someone holster a cocked DA/SA that doesn't have a safety, or an SA with a 2.5 lb glass trigger and the safety off (Condition 0.5?)

Drop that same pistol... hmmm. I don't care if it can only go bang straight down. It still went bang.

Simplicity can be a good thing, especially for a novice.

"If you pull the trigger, it goes bang. Don't pull the DAMN trigger until you want it to go bang. Keep your damn finger off the damn trigger!" Same rule, regardless of gun.
 
jparent said:
I feel the same way, except for any of the DA/SA guns.

Nothing like a dual operating system to confuse new shooters (is it safe? I dunno?) Which button to i press to make it safe? Oh nevermind, i'll just run around the course with the hammer back.

Nothing like watching someone holster a cocked DA/SA that doesn't have a safety, or an SA with a 2.5 lb glass trigger and the safety off (Condition 0.5?)

Drop that same pistol... hmmm. I don't care if it can only go bang straight down. It still went bang.

Simplicity can be a good thing, especially for a novice.

"If you pull the trigger, it goes bang. Don't pull the DAMN trigger until you want it to go bang. Keep your damn finger off the damn trigger!" Same rule, regardless of gun.
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At least with a DA/SA there's a hammer to remind you - although I can see your point if you're dealing with someone who has been forced to stand at a bench shooting and has only ever fired their DA/SA gun single action and then you're trying to make them use it as intended from a holster. As far as striker guns go they don't bother me once they're holstered.
 
jparent said:
Simplicity can be a good thing, especially for a novice.

"If you pull the trigger, it goes bang. Don't pull the DAMN trigger until you want it to go bang. Keep your damn finger off the damn trigger!" Same rule, regardless of gun.
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Honestly I learned on a Glock, and it was hammered into me from before I even touched it - the finger only goes on the trigger when you are ready for it to go "bang". I get very confused when trying to run an SA/DA pistol as to how it is supposed to be, where is the safety and which lever does what... Simplicity is essential for a beginner. Then it is harder to form bad habits. Practice the fundamentals (finger out of the trigger guard) and then it doesn't matter where your safety is.
 
brody125 said:
Unfortunately the choices I'm limited to are in thanks to the CFO rather than personal preference.

Semi auto,
9mm/40s&w
8lb+ trigger and "all of the safety features of which are housed within or part of the trigger system"
3.54-5.11" barrel
Night sights
Slide locks open after last round
External device that allows slide to be locked open manually
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Most trigger safety guns I have seen have been in the 5lb range. I would argue a DA/SA with like a 10lb DA first pull(P226) is a safety feature that is part of the trigger system.

ETA: What are these reqs for and why are you allowed to get a prohib?
 
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OP could go with a Sig P226 or P229 with either a DA only, or a DAK trigger - I'm sure MD Charlton can get either trigger for you, and maybe have them polish the action so that it's at least smooth (any 8lb trigger should at least be smooth). For a Glock you need at least an NY1 trigger, and for an M&P you need a Mas. trigger. Toronto PD ordered some M&P's with 10lb triggers, but for sale in Mass. they have to come with 8lb'ers.
 
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jparent said:
Nothing like a dual operating system to confuse new shooters (is it safe? I dunno?) Which button to i press to make it safe? Oh nevermind, i'll just run around the course with the hammer back.
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If a student/shooter can't figure out how to operate a safety/decocker, or better yet, haven't been instructed to do so, they shouldn't be shooting. Period.

Nothing like watching someone holster a cocked DA/SA that doesn't have a safety, or an SA with a 2.5 lb glass trigger and the safety off (Condition 0.5?)
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You are splitting hairs if you think think a 5.5lb trigger is WAY safer than a 2.5lb trigger.

Drop that same pistol... hmmm.
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Most modern DA/SA pistols have safety mechanisms that block the firing pin until the trigger is pulled. No more dangerous than dropping an SF pistol.

"If you pull the trigger, it goes bang. Don't pull the DAMN trigger until you want it to go bang. Keep your damn finger off the damn trigger!" Same rule, regardless of gun.
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Agree.
 
....?!?? SDVE's have been in Canada for a while now, and they're dirt cheap to boot. I paid $400 taxes and shipping in for the SD9VE sitting in my safe right now...

Also, the trigger is friggin atrocious. I can't understand why you would WANT that.
 
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