Trigger lock on flintlock?

V

va2dc

New member
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Location
Brossard, Quebec
I store all my rifle flintlock and my trade musket in my gun safe, but now I have
a Brown Bess that I need to store outside my safe in a Blanket gun case,
do I need to put a trigger lock on it?
Thank you
 
Honestly, my opinion is based on what I would do. Nothing else, common sense says you want something equal to removing the bolt. Removing the flint seems to be almost equal to a bolt removal. Certainly removal of the flint is the minimum to transport a loaded flintlock.
 
There is no requirement to trigger lock a flintlock long gun as they are not included as a firearm. Only exception would be a flintlock pistol as they are still considered restricted weapons.
 
I recall that in the PAL course there was an item related to transporting muzzle loaders used for hunting where it wasn't practical or desirable to shoot it empty. They could be left with powder and bullet and simply remove the flint or cap for transport or storage. One would like to think this is short term storage such as overnight at the hunting cabin or such. Then once they were at the place where they would potentially be used THEN put the flint or cap back in place.
 
Don't the reg's say an antique gun has to be stored, displayed and transported as any other? Yet they can be used, pistols also, where any non-restricted can be fired. A bit confusing. Plus I may be entirely wrong on all counts which why this is a question and not an opinion.
 
Its always a good idea to remove the flint. Especially if the gun is loaded. I had a Brown Bess go off with no charge in the pan once so it would be wise to remember this.

SJ
 
BCRider said:
I recall that in the PAL course there was an item related to transporting muzzle loaders used for hunting where it wasn't practical or desirable to shoot it empty. They could be left with powder and bullet and simply remove the flint or cap for transport or storage. .
Click to expand...

you are partially correct. A muzzle loader can be loaded with powder and ball but with the lock removed or flint or similar, when transporting from one hunting site to another. Once you make it out to the highway or to paved roads, it must be completely unloaded. I think powder and ball / shot in the barrel and stored at home is an accident waiting to happen. A flintlock can fire sometimes with no priming in the pan (I have had it happen) and I also recall the experience of a gunsmith friend of mine. He was asked to remove the nipple or breach plug (can't remember which) of a double percussion shotgun. He was assured it was empty, checked one barrel with a ram rod (that barrel was empty) and heated the other barrel with a torch several times. After the 3rd or 4th heating, kaboom. Black powder does not have to be heated particularly high to ignite


Antique guns are exempt from registration and need no license but are required to be stored and transported as modern guns. In the case of modern flintlocks, if you are buying from a store, their policy will probably be that you need a PAL

cheers mooncoon
 
I looked on the BC hunting regulations and all I could find was this

4A muzzle loader containing powder and shot in the barrel but
unprimed (ie, no powder in the pan of a flint lock or no cap in the
nipple of a percussion lock) is not considered a loaded firearm under
the Criminal Code (Canada).

I definitely see were storing a gun with a charge in has potential for a tragedy but emptying a muzzle loader every time (especially a flintlock) would be a royal pain in the you know were....I know it was common practice in the old days to store them that way, but without the primer charge....
 
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-98-209/FullText.html

Antique Firearms
14 (1) An individual may store, display or transport an antique firearm only if it is unloaded.

(2) An individual may transport an antique firearm in an unattended vehicle only if

(a) when the vehicle is equipped with a trunk or similar compartment that can be securely locked, the antique firearm is in that trunk or compartment and the trunk or compartment is securely locked; and

(b) when the vehicle is not equipped with a trunk or similar compartment that can be securely locked, the antique firearm is not visible from outside the vehicle and the vehicle, or the part that contains the antique firearm, is securely locked.

(3) An individual may transport an antique firearm that is a handgun only if it is in a locked container that is made of an opaque material and is of such strength, construction and nature that it cannot readily be broken open or into or accidentally opened during transportation.
Click to expand...
 
bgcameron said:
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-98-209/FullText.html
Click to expand...

So this is interesting...looks like our (BC) hunting regulations need updating? Or does this

4A muzzle loader containing powder and shot in the barrel but
unprimed (ie, no powder in the pan of a flint lock or no cap in the
nipple of a percussion lock) is not considered a loaded firearm under
the Criminal Code (Canada).
4It is unlawful to hunt with a set gun, or to hunt wildlife with a pump,

still apply? Almost a chicken before the egg debate. SJ
 
unloaded, in respect of a firearm, means that any propellant, projectile or cartridge that can be discharged from the firearm is not contained in the breech or firing chamber of the firearm nor in the cartridge magazine attached to or inserted into the firearm.
Click to expand...

This seems to be all I can find. I'm looking for the part that the bc hunting regs refer to.

All I can find it this:

Exception: Black powder muzzleloaders do not have to be unloaded when they are being transported between hunting sites if their firing cap or flint has been removed.
Click to expand...
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/powder-poudre-eng.htm
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom