No need EVER to re -anneal brass because you trimmed itDoing 006 to 8x57, I trim them first to about .002 over, chamfer then aneal. Resize, trim to finle length and aneal again.
I didn't annual because I trimmed it, I do it to soften it for the next step, it going to be worked a lot in the resizing process. 8x57 you're turning a lot of sholder into neck. Its easier on the brass and dies, zero cracks.No need EVER to re -anneal brass because you trimmed it![]()
It’s not gonna get any softer unless you change the annealing code UNLESS your Bar B Qing itI didn't annual because I trimmed it, I do it to soften it for the next step, it going to be worked a lot in the resizing process. 8x57 you're turning a lot of sholder into neck. Its easier on the brass and dies, zero cracks.
What he said was he anneals before necking up 308 to .323 to prevent splits. Then, because necking up that much will obviously cause some work hardening, he anneals again after. It makes perfect sense.It’s not gonna get any softer unless you change the annealing code UNLESS your Bar B Qing it![]()
I complely KNOW what he saying ! Thanks Thou !What he said was he anneals before necking up 308 to .323 to prevent splits. Then, because necking up that much will obviously cause some work hardening, he anneals again after. It makes perfect sense.
You understand that working brass makes it harder again, right? So if you anneal and then neck up to another caliber, the brass is not the same as it was before necking up.I complely KNOW what he saying ! Thanks Thou !
What i said was annealingf it twice will NOT change the softness of the BRASS unless you anneal it longer and redder to further soften the brass ! which is not nessacary to do what hes doing !
No it does NOT ! - thats BS ! shooting it makes it harder ! A few passes thru dies does not change brass hardness to any measurable degree at all !You understand that working brass makes it harder again, right? So if you anneal and then neck up to another caliber, the brass is not the same as it was before necking up.
Shooting works the brass by expanding it. Sizing it from 308 to 323 works the brass by expanding it. Same thing, no different. Cheers.No it does NOT ! - thats BS ! shooting it makes it harder ! A few passes thru dies does not change brass hardness to any measurable degree at all !
So on this I will just agree to disagree ! Cheers !
Completely DIFFERENT ! The brass does not get HOT just expanding it with lube thru a die - the work harding of it is NOTHING ! Cheers !Shooting works the brass by expanding it. Sizing it from 308 to 323 works the brass by expanding it. Same thing, no different. Cheers.
You haven't worked much with metal have you.Completely DIFFERENT ! The brass does not get HOT just expanding it with lube thru a die - the work harding of it is NOTHING ! Cheers !
I could say the same about YOU ! And i have sized up and down a LOT of brass and annealed 1000 s of brass cartridges so dont start thinking so much Smarter Bud !You haven't worked much with metal have you.
take a length of brass wire and bend it like thisI could say the same about YOU ! And i have sized up and down a LOT of brass and annealed 1000 s of brass cartridges so dont start thinking so much Smarter Bud !


Calm down, there's no reason to be upset.I could say the same about YOU ! And i have sized up and down a LOT of brass and annealed 1000 s of brass cartridges so dont start thinking so much Smarter Bud !
So why do commercial ammunition manufacturers anneal brass several times through the process of making brass casings? They will anneal between forming stages even if no heat is applied. Cold worked metal still hardens.No it does NOT ! - thats BS ! shooting it makes it harder ! A few passes thru dies does not change brass hardness to any measurable degree at all !
So on this I will just agree to disagree ! Cheers !



























