Tristar vs Weatherby

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Beretta, Benelli, Browning etc are WAY overpriced. I cannot afford a 1500 semi shotgun.

Anyone have any experience with the Weatherby Sa-08 or the Tristar Raptor Viper semis? Only a couple of YouTube videos but both are gas and both are made in Turkey.
 
72mustang said:
Beretta, Benelli, Browning etc are WAY overpriced. I cannot afford a 1500 semi shotgun.

Anyone have any experience with the Weatherby Sa-08 or the Tristar Raptor Viper semis? Only a couple of YouTube videos but both are gas and both are made in Turkey.
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If you choose not to, or can't afford something that doesn't make it overpriced. I can't afford an Aston Martin, but that doesn't mean they're over priced.

As FLHTCUI points out, a used 1100 is a great option.
 
rkm456 said:
If you choose not to, or can't afford something that doesn't make it overpriced. I can't afford an Aston Martin, but that doesn't mean they're over priced.

As FLHTCUI points out, a used 1100 is a great option.
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I know what your saying... but if manufacturers can sell copy's of more expensive ones at 1/3 the cost... then yes, a $1500-2000 semi is overpriced. There is not much in sense of materials to make one.... so I ca not justify paying the cost for a $2000. Would I love to have one? Hell yes. But I also don't have money to spend like that either. Will my $100 timex or Cardinal watch keep,same time as a $1000 Rolex? Yup.
 
I got tired of having an expensive Benelli sitting in the gun safe for hunting geese 2 or 3 times a year so I got the Weatherby Sa-08 synthetic and it has worked out just fine. I don't have a lot of rounds through it but I shot some rounds of sporting with it when it was new and then relegated it to goose hunting duty. To date it has not had one hiccup with the exception of when I was fooling around with it to see just how light a load the interchangeable gas valve would handle, so that hiccup was shooter induced. Ergonomically it fits me well so I tend to shoot it pretty good and the recoil isn't objective with heavy 3 inch loads. I don't know how long it will last but it was a cheap gun that will get beat up in a goose blind and if it lasts only a few years, at $550 dollars I won't complain if it doesn't go forever.
I have no experience with the Tristar's but as others have pointed out, used guns can be really good value too.
 
I have seen the SX-4 on sale for under $900. The SX-3 is still my go to waterfowl gun. A fellow brought out an Armsan with a gold colored receiver for skeet, that he paid around $750 for ,and he fought with it for weeks, before giving up on it.
 
72mustang said:
I know what your saying... but if manufacturers can sell copy's of more expensive ones at 1/3 the cost... then yes, a $1500-2000 semi is overpriced. There is not much in sense of materials to make one.... so I ca not justify paying the cost for a $2000. Would I love to have one? Hell yes. But I also don't have money to spend like that either. Will my $100 timex or Cardinal watch keep,same time as a $1000 Rolex? Yup.
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You're completely ignoring that like the Rolex, the B guns cost more to make.
 
Weatherby is decent turkish. Tristar is turkish junk

I have a tristar ou and i refuse to sell it as its been such a lesson in gunsmithing. The only good thing about it is the bluing. Every internal part has been replaced. Replacement parts rarely fit and had to be altered. Other parts needed to be made. The barrels have a 16" variance in poi. The bead site was threaded the hole it was forced into wasnt
Some have said tristar has gotten better but it doesnt take much to improve when youre the worst of the worst

I see weatherby guns run week after week on the skeet fields
 
72mustang said:
Beretta, Benelli, Browning etc are WAY overpriced. I cannot afford a 1500 semi shotgun.

Anyone have any experience with the Weatherby Sa-08 or the Tristar Raptor Viper semis? Only a couple of YouTube videos but both are gas and both are made in Turkey.
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You'd be styl'in with an A-5 3" mag.
And they seem to be somewhat reasonable in $$ now.
 
rkm456 said:
You're completely ignoring that like the Rolex, the B guns cost more to make.
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No I'm not. At some point in any manufactures process the quality/cost jumps out of proportion and your justpaying more for the name. Is a beretta a400 a better gun than a $700 one... of course... a blind man can see that. But what makes it $1300-1500 more? Defiantly not $1500 cost of better components. I just cannot see paying the outrageous prices some firearms are selling for.
 
"B" guns are not expensive when amortized over a lifetime of shooting.
Low end shotguns have the risk of short life or never really performing. If you are willing to take that risk, you might be one of the lucky ones.
With the generally poor support for lesser brand shotguns in Canada, your problems, if encountered, might be near unsolvable.
I see a lot of cheap shotguns, nearly new, unloaded in the gun show circuit. I suspect less than stellar performance.
 
saskbooknut said:
"B" guns are not expensive when amortized over a lifetime of shooting.
Low end shotguns have the risk of short life or never really performing. If you are willing to take that risk, you might be one of the lucky ones.
With the generally poor support for lesser brand shotguns in Canada, your problems, if encountered, might be near unsolvable.
I see a lot of cheap shotguns, nearly new, unloaded in the gun show circuit. I suspect less than stellar performance.
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True.... I'm not doubting that. As the old saying goes.... you get what you pay for. But at some point the the cost increase for quality diminishes per dollor spent and When you reach a certain price point your paying more for name and "bragging" rights. I should also point out I don't shoot 1000 rounds a week either. 2-300 a year is typical for me.
 
72mustang said:
I know what your saying... but if manufacturers can sell copy's of more expensive ones at 1/3 the cost... then yes, a $1500-2000 semi is overpriced. There is not much in sense of materials to make one.... so I ca not justify paying the cost for a $2000. Would I love to have one? Hell yes. But I also don't have money to spend like that either. Will my $100 timex or Cardinal watch keep,same time as a $1000 Rolex? Yup.
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Rolex is a terrible example, as the mechanical movements are actually less accurate than a good quartz movement. Yes it is well made, and it costs a lot more to make, but a mechanical movement is not purchased for accuracy. As for cheap copies of quality firearms, they are often made of inferior materials, to inferior tolerances, so they often don't function as well, or last as long as the firearm that was copied.
 
I have a dresser drawer full of broken cheap watches, a basement full of leaky cheap waders, broken fly rods along with the reels and repair parts.. I also have a closet full of hunting clothes that keep you sweaty when you're active and freezing when you're still along with several pairs of hunting boots that do the same. I have a crate full of duck decoys that don't float, duck calls that don't quack and goose calls that don't honk.

I simply can't afford anymore inexpensive products.
 
I have an Asena zr7 which is very close to the Weatherby (in fact I was instructed to use the Weatherby owners manual by the retailer).

Its been a reliable gun, would absolutely buy another for $350, so at least SOME of the Turkish semis are worth buying.
 
72mustang said:
No I'm not. At some point in any manufactures process the quality/cost jumps out of proportion and your justpaying more for the name. Is a beretta a400 a better gun than a $700 one... of course... a blind man can see that. But what makes it $1300-1500 more?
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Better components, more expensive labour, and the initial cost involved with having engineers design a product designed from the ground up also needs to be recouped.
 
MK2750 said:
I have a dresser drawer full of broken cheap watches, a basement full of leaky cheap waders, broken fly rods along with the reels and repair parts.. I also have a closet full of hunting clothes that keep you sweaty when you're active and freezing when you're still along with several pairs of hunting boots that do the same. I have a crate full of duck decoys that don't float, duck calls that don't quack and goose calls that don't honk.

I simply can't afford anymore inexpensive products.
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This 100%. Its a tough transition to make, the "buy once, cry once" buying method, but it actually saves money in the long run....usually.
 
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