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If you want to get your blood pressure up, read some of the comments on the CBC page today. Why is it that trophy hunters have such a poor image and that there are so many myths about what trophy hunting entails, even among the hunting community itself? Are we really doing that poor of a job portraying what it is we actually do? We eat the meat, we have virtually no impact on game populations, we contribute significantly both monetarily and with volunteer time to conservation yet we are portrayed as the villains of hunting. I don't get it. http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/bighorn-sheep-shrinking-due-to-hunters-study-suggests-1.2459623
 
All I can say is that it's been a few years since I've seen bighorns walking across the highway in spences bridge. There was a certain group that thought it was their right to sell guided hunts with no regard for population numbers.

Legal hunters are the ones who pay into the coffers of wildlife management. I think that's all that really needs to be said about the matter. IMHO.
 
And herein lies the problem...enjoy hunting while you can guys...the end is near and you'll need look no further than the mirror to see why.
 
To answer the OP's post...

Hunting needs a new face (or faces). A person or group of people who dispell the myths and set the record straight.

Whether it be through TV or Youtube public service announcements, or letters to newspaper editors, or whatever... Maybe all of these things.

Or maybe an organization or fellowship should be formed to organize this sort of stuff. One that concentrates on showing hunting at it's best, with an emphasis on conservation, camaraderie, outdoors, and especially on natural "organic" meat.

A huge part of the population is becoming more and more aware of where their food comes from. These "foodies" are often very accepting of hunting for food and many turn to hunting themselves. We need to take advantage of this trend in society, in my opinion. These same people, however, are typically disgusted by the idea of killing an animal just for the sake of killing it, and that's how "Trophy Hunting" has been portrayed for a long time. In fact, there are different types of "Trophy Hunters". I think a better term, such as "selective hunters" needs to be popularized.

I have some ideas on some videos that I want to make, to do my share of the work in educating people about what hunting means to so many of us.
 
sheephunter said:
And herein lies the problem...enjoy hunting while you can guys...the end is near and you'll need look no further than the mirror to see why.
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I hope you didn't interpret what I wrote the wrong way. I don't think all Trophy Hunters are moronic, high-fiving jackasses. However, the vast majority on WILDTV are exactly that.

This image of the white, male, right-wing, redneck, masochistic killer... Why keep proving the stereotype?

There are plenty of hunters that do not fit that mold at all. Lots and lots and lots of them. We need to put them on TV.
 
I think its the term "trophy" that gives it the bad rap....would it not sound better to use a term like "Extremely Selective Limited Harvesting" ....just a thought!!! Kinda like the difference to "joe/jane urban public" with Rapeseed Oil, and Canola Oil....see the difference, same product but which sounds more inviting?
 
hawk-i said:
I think its the term "trophy" that gives it the bad rap....would it not sound better to use a term like "Extremely Selective Limited Harvesting" ....just a thought!!! Kinda like the difference to "joe/jane urban public" with Rapeseed Oil, and Canola Oil....see the difference, same product but which sounds more inviting?
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You may be onto something. Extremely selective limited harvesting sounds like you're doing the wilderness a favour.
 
Darth Vaper said:
You may be onto something. Extremely selective limited harvesting sounds like you're doing the wilderness a favour.
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Yeah, kinda like the difference between....Truck Driver or Product Relocation Engineer, which would you sooner be?

Edit: make that "Strategic Product Relocation Engineer" :)
 
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ironsighter said:
I hope you didn't interpret what I wrote the wrong way. I don't think all Trophy Hunters are moronic, high-fiving jackasses. However, the vast majority on WILDTV are exactly that.

This image of the white, male, right-wing, redneck, masochistic killer... Why keep proving the stereotype?

There are plenty of hunters that do not fit that mold at all. Lots and lots and lots of them. We need to put them on TV.
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I'd say quite the opposite in fact. Since the popularization of hunting on television, I'd say hunting is becoming far more accepted by the general public but it undoubtedly has caused more division between hunters themselves. So what if a guy is excited that he shot an animal regardless of size. Why must we continue to pick our own apart when the general public is becoming more accepting. Check out the latest issue of Time magazine for example.
 
I'm a trophy hunter and proud of it! I take the time to hunt for exactly what I consider to be a trophy to ME. Since I became a trophy hunter, I kill fewer animals than before, I spend more money hunting, I spend way more time hunting, and I enjoy my time in the woods far more. Trophy hunting to me, is far more than just the mount on the wall, it's about doing something you love to do creating memories to last a lifetime. The mount is only part of it, the time spent, places scene, new friends met, and the meat we bring home are all just as important....Far too many people have no clue what a true trophy hunter is!
 
How about discussing the actual article and how flawed the science behind it is rather than berate other people's opinions about the idiots on TV?

Geist disproved this theory already, but I didn't notice any mention of THAT in the article.
 
The concept dates back to 2005 when Coltman brought it forward. It's pretty well been proven junk science by the entire scientific community. Even Coltman washed his hands of it. Why Fiesta-Blancette is resurrecting it is beyond me. Perhaps he needs more research money.
 
If you read threw all of the comments on the article, you will see it is doing exactly what they had intended, to rebuke trophy hunting and call it into question.
 
From what I've read there's more and more urbanite's, including the, "hip" crowd getting into hunting. Sure, they'll shoot a doe or two..........then they'll want a set of horns to put on the wall.

I've never been a, "trophy" hunter, but there's horns on my wall. I think that's pretty standard.
 
ironsighter said:
I hope you didn't interpret what I wrote the wrong way. I don't think all Trophy Hunters are moronic, high-fiving jackasses. However, the vast majority on WILDTV are exactly that.

This image of the white, male, right-wing, redneck, masochistic killer... Why keep proving the stereotype?

There are plenty of hunters that do not fit that mold at all. Lots and lots and lots of them. We need to put them on TV.
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I agree with you regarding the embellishment of hunters when a animal is killed on WildTV. Never have I acted this way after harvesting an animal but I guess that I generally don't stand in front of a camera to conduct a little Hollywood acting. This reason along with several others is why I cancelled WildTV after only 3 months of viewing. From time to time a this subject of hunting or trophy hunting rears its ugly head with mainstream media so that they can stir the pot, and what happens in the end of their report........nothing. However times are changing with life in general, things that were not accepted in life are filtering through the fingers of acceptance and non-acceptance. Hunting could possibly be the thing of the past , however very many extremists to the right in North America for that to happen any time soon. I say Meh, been there done that, some journalist was bored and wanted to be noticed.........again.
 
when I was strictly a meat hunter my season was over by noon every opening day.

when I started bow hunting 30 some years ago we were allowed 2 antlerless and 1 either ### tag.

I still had my meat opening day, but hunted for 3 more months for a "trophy"

the time spent in the field was invaluable to my later success and in understanding deer and how they interact with each other and their environment.

1 season "trophy hunting" taught me more than 10 years as a meat hunter.
 
sheephunter said:
If you want to get your blood pressure up, read some of the comments on the CBC page today. Why is it that trophy hunters have such a poor image and that there are so many myths about what trophy hunting entails, even among the hunting community itself? Are we really doing that poor of a job portraying what it is we actually do? We eat the meat, we have virtually no impact on game populations, we contribute significantly both monetarily and with volunteer time to conservation yet we are portrayed as the villains of hunting. I don't get it. http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/bighorn-sheep-shrinking-due-to-hunters-study-suggests-1.2459623
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Reading the stuff you write, I can understand your surprise. :) General Public expects more from us hunters than bragging about the size of the heads we bag, especially when we pay money to have someone take us by the hand and put us in a shooting situation. True Hunter knows the woods and expects a challenging, satisfying outdoors experience, not just a big rack. That's what we have to sell or were gonna become extinct.

Grizz
 
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