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I received this email from three different friends of mine who are all retired cops. I took it with a grain of salt but this morning I went to my local gun shop and wanted a case of 2 3/4 #5 12 guage and a case of 45 cal. He told me he was informed that ammo would start to be hard to get and it would probably start to be allocated to him.

Anyone hearing about this lead availability mess? Ant truth to this email?

Bob

LAST SMELTING PLANT GONE ................

Sad frightening news

"If you want to lift yourself up, lift up someone else"

.....Booker T .Washington






All lead for bullets will have to come

from overseas! This move will also make

the cost 100 LL (100 low lead aviation

fuel) UNAFFORDABLE. Approximately 2 g of

lead is added to each gallon of aviation

fuel!

There are numerous alarming reasons why

the US government and the military have

been buying up all the ammo. Here’s one

of them.


Obama and the EPA just shut down the last

lead smelting plant in the US. They raised

the EPA regulations by 10 fold and it would

have cost the plant $100 million to comply.

You can own all the guns you want, but if

you can’t get ammo, you are out of luck.

Remember when Obama promised his minions

that he was working on gun control behind

the scenes?

Welcome to it. Now, all domestic mined

lead ore will have to be shipped overseas,

refined and then shipped back to the US.

Not only will ammo now be even harder to

come by, the demand and the process of

supply will cause the price to skyrocket

even more.

And ponder this… there is an excellent

chance that Obama will rig the market to

where all ammo has to be purchased from

a government entity instituting de facto

ammo registration.

So much for the Second Amendment. There has

not been a peep about this in the major

news outlets and it is done.

With the US no longer producing lead,

all supplies will now have to come from

China, Australia or Peru, with the

overwhelming emphasis on China. More

redistribution of wealth; more economic

and liberty crippling of the US on tap.


The idiots at the EPA (evil protection

agency) had this to say:


The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency

said the company “made a business decision”

to shut down the smelter instead of installing

pollution control technologies needed to

reduce sulfur dioxide and lead emissions

as required by the Clean Air Act.


The Doe Run Co. announced last year that

it had dropped plans to build a new lead

processing facility in Herculaneum that

would have used a new, cleaner lead

production technology. The company cited

the $100 million project as too financially

risky.




The EPA is playing Mafioso I guess — we didn’t make

them shut down, they made a business decision. In

other words, they couldn’t pay the extortion, so the

thugs shut them down.




But Marxists will do or die and are doubling down on

the destruction of energy in America, our way of life

and the Constitution.


The smelting plant has known since 2010 this was

coming. They couldn’t stop it and no one else rose

up to stop it either. The business had been in

production for 120 years and now goes the way

of our auto industry.

The military’s obsession with ammo was related

to security and supply. They knew this was coming

too, so they bought up all they could get before the

plug was pulled. Screw the average American. It’s

as Chris Muir said, he’s not as worried about where

the bullets will come from, as much as how the

government will deliver them and I’m right there

with him on that one.


So, back door gun control is moving forward and

while we are all distracted with shiny stuff, our Second

Amendment rights are just about gone. Obama is one

Marxist dictator who is savvy at political chess.

He has flanked the Second Amendment. Now it’s

our move.


You can Google this if you don’t believe it, or read

this article:



http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/16881-epa-closure-of-last-lead-smelting-plant-to-impact-ammunition-production



Long term what this means: Your investment in

ammo may be your best investment. Guns will

be plentiful but ammo will be another story.

How does $3.75 a round (that’s for one bullet)

for a 9mm work for you? Box of 50 would only

cost you $187.50











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I would assume this is going to be part of the upcoming EPA regulations that Obama is putting off until after the 2014 election. This is just a small bit of what we (in America) are about to be hit after Nov. 2014.
 
Long term what this means: Your investment in

ammo may be your best investment. Guns will

be plentiful but ammo will be another story.

How does $3.75 a round (that’s for one bullet)

for a 9mm work for you? Box of 50 would only

cost you $187.50

So I'll just buy European manufactured ammo which is priced at "normal" prices. S&B, PRVI, Norma etc
 
ugh, not this again.

shooting is a very small percentage of lead usage in the world, china produces the most new lead, but 90% (or higher) of lead is recycled. batteries are the biggest use of the lead.

whether or not ammo manufacturers use this as an excuse to raise prices is one thing, but there will NOT be a shortage of lead

/close thread.
 
ugh, not this again.

shooting is a very small percentage of lead usage in the world, china produces the most new lead, but 90% (or higher) of lead is recycled. batteries are the biggest use of the lead.

whether or not ammo manufacturers use this as an excuse to raise prices is one thing, but there will NOT be a shortage of lead

/close thread.

There is more recycled lead around that they can't get rid of, I would not worry.
 
ugh, not this again.

shooting is a very small percentage of lead usage in the world, china produces the most new lead, but 90% (or higher) of lead is recycled. batteries are the biggest use of the lead.

whether or not ammo manufacturers use this as an excuse to raise prices is one thing, but there will NOT be a shortage of lead

/close thread.

Actually, only about 60-65% of lead is recycled. They intentionally confuse the facts by saying 90-97% of battery lead is recycled. Not all lead.

The rest of the lead is lost or used by processes and or simply not recovered because it's not financially viable at 90 cents a pound to recover lead from soldered circuit boards, tinned wire, car electronics, wiring, etc.

So that means a tremendous amount of the lead we are using right now is from new supply. Shutdown of the last primary smelter is more symbolic than actually having an impact on the supply. There is lots of lead in the world and the price is an international commodity. So (baring government interference) the price we pay isn't dictates by one smelter, but determined by the worldwide commodity price. (just like the price of gold, silver, oil, etc)
 
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ugh, not this again.

shooting is a very small percentage of lead usage in the world, china produces the most new lead, but 90% (or higher) of lead is recycled. batteries are the biggest use of the lead.

whether or not ammo manufacturers use this as an excuse to raise prices is one thing, but there will NOT be a shortage of lead

/close thread.



Too bad most of it goes in the paint they use on kids toys. Za zing :)
 
I received this email from three different friends of mine who are all retired cops.

There are two possible interpretations of this...

Either your "friends" keep you in the dark intentionally,

OR,

Cops aren't very on the ball.

Either way, this is old news, and almost entirely BS. Yes, the last lead ore smelter in the US closed in 2013. But it won't make a damned bit of difference, to anything.
 
This made me think how it would be beneficial for a government to help fund environmental upgrades rather then chase manufacturers overseas. Then I started to wonder where does all our carbon tax go?
 
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