TROY 102 308 sporter rifles

LoL! It’s not a “financial decision” It’s just a toy, only worth under 2k... big deal. A financial decision is putting 80k down on a rental unit and renting it out. Investing in stocks and hoping it goes up... etc...

Now back to the rifle. I’m gonna need some xcr 10 rounders for this bad boy. Anyone know the best place to pick some up? Also wondering about stock options. I’m not the biggest fan of the battle axe
 
Wal-Mart Greeter said:
... yeah paid for so long ago that you've lost 50% of the items resale value before even opening the box lmfao

Must be nice to have so much money to burn that you find it magical watching it go up the chimney with Santa Claus like a puff of smoke! You must work in public service.
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Boy you love to take a dump on every view that isn’t your own eh? I think you really do need a hug!
 
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Gatehouse said:
Self employed. I do okay. Even if your "50%" figure was true (it's not) The cost of ordering one of these Troy rifles isn't an expense that I would be worrying about losing resale value on. It's only $1800 or so. The resale value concern is a largely irrelevant to most shooters, we don't buy guns to resell them, we buy guns to shoot them.

Most people that go for the shiny new toy pay a premium compared to a year or two after the items hit the shelves, it's only a poor financial decision if you can't afford it or have to finance the purchase.
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Exactly! I’m self employed as well, when I wanted to buy my bcl I just took on a weekend job that I normally would not have..
it’s only a poor decision if your buying things you don’t need with money you don’t have.
 
gallen270 said:
Can everyone quit their #####ing and talk about the stag 102, no one's got a gun to our heads to buy it. More rifle, less complaining.
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what's a stag 102?
hehehe

Troy is late to the party but it is cool that we have more options.
I could not be happier with my Stag 10 builds and see no reason to dive into other large frame rifles now that I have these.
I'll wait for the smaller frame Troy/BCL 102 to be in stock at a store so I can feel before I buy even if I have to wait a year or so for the stupid pre-orders to be done with.
 
my2cents about pre orders is the fact that amounts for the product can mysteriously change and the fact you gave them money, for an item at that stated price means nothing!
there is no reason I see to pre order off a drawing that has no frt.
who's to say it will be classified as NR.
again just my 2 cents
 
manufacturers and wholesalers offer deals to retailers , deals based on numbers of units. So if you order 500 units you pay one price , if you order 10,000 units you pay a different and much lower price. Then there are terms to the orders like you have to pay a certain percentage of the order in a certain time and then interest starts. You pay that order within 30 days or you pay it up front..... you get the best discounts and the best margins at retail.

So what is happening with a pre order is the business is stacking up the orders in hopes of hitting a certain number and then paying cash for that order to get the best deal possible and the lowest interest pay out possible. While they are waiting and gathering those orders, the funds going into the bank are making them a small percentage in interest and also raising the company's credit due to cash flow influx.
This is all done at the customer's expense , that being time and money.

It is a way for a company to maximize profit, have little to no overhead and essentially just middle man a deal.
I am kinda shaking my head that retailers are being so desperate to sign people up to this scheme that they are advertising before they have a copy of FRT and they don't even have a picture of an actual manufactured firearm...… they are advertising with a fuggen CAD drawing...….
to me it's shameful retail behavior ……. it's just a rifle not a bloody McLaren.
 
Wal-Mart Greeter said:
I'm not trying to tell you not to do it... I'm just saying that from the standpoint of most efficient way to spend your money a pre-order is always a terrible idea. That may not matter to you, I was just making the point for those who may not have thought about it and are about to pay 3 months worth of interest on their credit card...
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No need to be angry about it. Sure, it is infinitesimally more expensive to pre-order than to buy the rifle once they hit shelves as you lose the opportunity cost of tying up the $1800 for a few months before you get the rifle but it really isn't much of a loss considering what money makes these days. If someone is paying for a pre-order with a credit card and not paying that balance in full when it's due then yes, it is a bad decision and they may need more financial planning help than just your warning.

I guess my point is that it isn't much of a financial decision for many people, it is just spending toy money one way or the other. FWIW, I agree with you on pre-orders overall, just for different reasons. I always wait and let some come in to be sure things are as advertised and people are happy with them before I buy something new and untested.


HChammer said:
it’s only a poor decision if your buying things you don’t need with money you don’t have.
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+1.


gallen270 said:
Can everyone quit their #####ing and talk about the stag 102, no one's got a gun to our heads to buy it. More rifle, less complaining.
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OK. I'm wondering about the barrel and chamber quality (for the 6.5mm specifically). I want it mostly for hunting but 6.5mm begs to be shot at long range and I don't want to not be able to shoot tiny groups way out there or have a pencil barrel that heats up after two groups. As long as it balances OK I don't mind carrying some weight for the hunting.


Mark
 
coldfire said:
my2cents about pre orders is the fact that amounts for the product can mysteriously change and the fact you gave them money, for an item at that stated price means nothing!
there is no reason I see to pre order off a drawing that has no frt.
who's to say it will be classified as NR.
again just my 2 cents
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It has an approved FRT...we've said that multiple times.

Ryan
 
Chemist said:
It has an approved FRT...we've said that multiple times.

Ryan
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If you're still waiting on the RCMP formatted report, maybe you can post the FRT #. That way the true paranoiacs can call the RCMP to confirm on a burner phone bought with cash on a VOIP on public WiFI :)
 
Ustauk said:
If you're still waiting on the RCMP formatted report, maybe you can post the FRT #. That way the true paranoiacs can call the RCMP to confirm on a burner phone bought with cash on a VOIP on public WiFI :)
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don't care so much about the FRT , certainly trust these folks if they say it exists. Be pretty silly to advertise stating it has an frt when it doesn't.
But why the CAD drawing?
Why no completed firearm picture. Leads one to believe these rifles have not even been manufactured yet.
Not trying to be a #### , these are perfectly suitable questions to have.
and I suppose my last question , considering the "102" in the firearm's name, is this a collaboration between BCL and Troy or an odd coincidence? If so it's kinda cool to see a Canadian and American company working hand in hand for the Canadian shooting sports market.

Gatehouse said:
You feel that Stag makes a better product than Troy?

I have not owned either so always looking for opinions
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I've owned Troy products , mainly their M14 related items like the MCS chassis and muzzle devices. Top notch machining and finishes all around. Never owned any Troy AR products.
My Stag 10's are wonderful other than needing to swap out the factory mag release for an ambi to get all my mags to function 100%. Otherwise, machining, fitment and finish are on par with medium to higher end AR products that I have handled. From a builders point of view, these were my first large frame AR builds and they went together without a hitch and function with all the ammo I have tried so far. No reason to replace them with another product.
Gonna hold off for the small frame model and see how this all pans out.
 
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Gatehouse said:
You feel that Stag makes a better product than Troy?

I have not owned either so always looking for opinions
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Troy and Stag are comparable in fit, finish and overall quality.

Like every AR type rifle out there, it really depends on the quality of individual components (barrel, trigger, etc.)

It begs the question of why the sellers have introduced a pre-order when you can readily get Stag rifles and receivers.
 
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