Troy Defense PAR (pump action rifle) tell me about them...
- Thread starter Camp Cook
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I thought long and hard about buying one of these which is why I started this post.
The info shared was great and very informative thank you everyone but I decided to pass and put a bolt action rifle in 223 together instead two main reasons cost of rifle and the fluted chamber made me nervous.
I purchased a stainless 22" barreled Rem 700 VTR in 223 I plan on shortening the barrel by 2" - 3" and eventually put it into a MDT LSS or a Magpul Hunter 700 stock and install the Magpul mag well and buy MDT 5 and 10 round 223 mags.
The info shared was great and very informative thank you everyone but I decided to pass and put a bolt action rifle in 223 together instead two main reasons cost of rifle and the fluted chamber made me nervous.
I purchased a stainless 22" barreled Rem 700 VTR in 223 I plan on shortening the barrel by 2" - 3" and eventually put it into a MDT LSS or a Magpul Hunter 700 stock and install the Magpul mag well and buy MDT 5 and 10 round 223 mags.
One thing to keep in mind is that if you are really like the AR platform and which I do then this is really the gun for you, it's just all come down to the caliber that you prefer.
I chose the 308 win, a tad heavy but manageable than my M14 platform rifle. Accuracy is quite good with surplus HB 308 win from Marstar at 100 meters, I got like 2 to 3 MOA grouping, could be better with handload or factory match load.
Funny thing is I find that Troy battle axe stock is really comfortable but look so fugly. The rifle could be shot very fast with some training, be a man and pump this very hard, light pump will give you light strike especially with surplus rounds.
Here is my set up for now.
I chose the 308 win, a tad heavy but manageable than my M14 platform rifle. Accuracy is quite good with surplus HB 308 win from Marstar at 100 meters, I got like 2 to 3 MOA grouping, could be better with handload or factory match load.
Funny thing is I find that Troy battle axe stock is really comfortable but look so fugly. The rifle could be shot very fast with some training, be a man and pump this very hard, light pump will give you light strike especially with surplus rounds.
Here is my set up for now.
Lookin' good! If you can get a hold of one try an AFG on it. It fixed a lot of how fat the pump felt to me. I noticed the newer ones have a lower profile 1 piece pump on them.
I'm kind of curious to see the difference between the large caliber PAR upper and the dimensionally closest AR10 variant upper and how close of a fit they are, as the rear of the .308 PAR lower is "truer" to the original than the .223 version. From what I can see the angle at the back is slightly different than the standard DPMS or AR10, the pin location is probably different, and there is no hole for the buffer tube. Not sure what else I could be missing but unlike the .223 those differences could be "fixed" with a little machine work.
I'm kind of curious to see the difference between the large caliber PAR upper and the dimensionally closest AR10 variant upper and how close of a fit they are, as the rear of the .308 PAR lower is "truer" to the original than the .223 version. From what I can see the angle at the back is slightly different than the standard DPMS or AR10, the pin location is probably different, and there is no hole for the buffer tube. Not sure what else I could be missing but unlike the .223 those differences could be "fixed" with a little machine work.
How smooth is the pump action compare to a 12g? I have seen videos where people struggled with the pump action and it doesn't look as smooth as a typical 12g pump shotgun. May be some of those people are not used to pump shotgun I guess. Also, there is a very recent video showing potential problem with the pump release having risk of breaking. The guy in the video is a vendor and had his gun smith made steel part replacement. Anyone ever heard of / experienced this problem?
I recently got the 223 and only put maybe 80-100 rounds through it and I will say the pump is a little stickier than I'd like. Hoping with some use it will loosen up but overall the rifle is worth every penny if you like the AR platform but don't want to be restricted to the range. I have a feeling these will sell like crazy for as long as the standard AR stays restricted.
According to the article https://www.americanrifleman.org/ar...troy-223-national-sporting-pump-action-rifle/
"The upper and lower receivers are milled from billet aluminum and treated with a Mil-Spec hard coat anodized finish. "
"Upper Receiver: Billet Machined Aluminum Railed Flat-Top, MIL-SPEC Hard Coat Anodized Finish
Lower Receiver: Billet Machined Aluminum, M4 Feed Ramps, MIL-SPEC Hard Coat Anodized Finish
Barrel: 16" Melonite Finish "
"The upper and lower receivers are milled from billet aluminum and treated with a Mil-Spec hard coat anodized finish. "
"Upper Receiver: Billet Machined Aluminum Railed Flat-Top, MIL-SPEC Hard Coat Anodized Finish
Lower Receiver: Billet Machined Aluminum, M4 Feed Ramps, MIL-SPEC Hard Coat Anodized Finish
Barrel: 16" Melonite Finish "
I have one in .223 and I don't think my chamber is fluted. I've fired about 100 rounds and haven't seen any unusual marks on any of the brass.
Ok just changed the PAR to a 7.62x39 with a barrel from ARP..(Ar15performance.com). Change over from the 30 HAR took about 20 mins, easy peasy. Cycles perfectly with snap & dummy rounds and will follow up with a range report very shortly.
