Troy PAR + AR vs ATRS MV

[quorum]

Troy Par + AR Pros:
- lighter
- shorter barrel
- Troy PAR more reliable
- Troy PAR less likely to be banned
- AR: debatable whether a restricted semi-auto is safer than a non-restricted semi-auto from getting banned first; but generally the antis fear first what they can't track.
- Troy PAR mellonite barrel will last longer, and AR have chrome lined barrels
- Both rifles slightly cheaper than an ATRS

ATRS MV Pros:
- semi-auto anywhere
- match-grade trigger and barrel
- Non restricted (whereas 1 half of PAR+AR is not). This may be a Trojan horse since antis fear untracked non-restricted semi-autos more than they fear tracked restricted ARs; this may therefore be a big financial risk given the cost of this rifle. Unfortunately, the threat of confiscation is par for the course when it comes to our decisions.
- 1 rifle to go anywhere. 1 system for muscle memory at the range or in the bush.

Which would you prefer? Obviously with the PAR + AR option, you'd have to practice 3 gun in the bush with a pump action AR - is this a big deal?

 

[hbean]

2 in the hand is better than one in the bush

 

[driller212]

Slightly cheaper? LOL.

 

[MackForce]

This poll should get saucy..
Although im really not seeing the connection between the PAR and the MV. LOTS of differences.. aside from the black rifle look.

 

[quorum]

This poll should get saucy..
Although im really not seeing the connection between the PAR and the MV. LOTS of differences.. aside from the black rifle look.

If you're a 3 gun competitor, you basically have to use 2 different rifles: one at the range, and one in the bush. If you don't like any of the current NR semi-autos, but you like the PAR - then the option is to have a PAR + AR.

However, now that we have the ATRS, we have an NR option that's better than an AR, and you can take to the bush, but it is really expensive.

So the question is, is it sufficient to use the PAR to do 3 gun drills in the bush? I plan to do 3 gun, but haven't yet, so I don't know whether the PAR is "good enough" to practice drills in the bush.

 

[MackForce]

Yeah I hear you.
I have just got my 3 gun kit together where I want it and am heading out to CHAS sometime to check out some matches.
I would just go MV. It is expensive, but so is 3 gun.

 

[Ravage]

Going by the reviews i've seen on the PAR and the price point it's a no brainer which to buy to be honest, For that price alone it seems silly not to buy one to check it out. AR furniture with AR mags and as most people can attest a pump action shotgun is pretty fast to cycle and shoot and more reliable then a semi auto so basing my opinion off pump action shotguns vs semi auto shotguns I think the PAR is comparable the same way. Not my next gun purchase tho but Supernova said he was interested in one so i'll wait and play with his but I can see myself with one in the future. An ATARs I cannot picture myself buying one of those at all.

 

[quorum]

I don't really like the NR semi-autos we have available to us right now. They are either too inaccurate, or too heavy, or have horrible ergonomics or aren't as accessorizable as ARs. An AR is what I really want, and that pretty much describes the ATRS. But.. the ATRS is very expensive.

 

[Sherlock Gnomes]

Troy and ar is way I will be going. Have the at but saving the scratch for the par for next years hunt. Going with the 308 vs 338 federal.

 

[b_w.]

just ordered a PAR which will sow up next week. WIll see once I get it out.

 

[quorum]

I think a big factor in the decision is how often one gets to go out into the bush to plink. Not a lot for me, so ponying up $4k for a rifle just so I might get to shoot it in the bush might not make much sense. One thing I did remember though, was just how annoying it was to shoot a semi-auto that missed. I had an SKS at the time, and it was annoying how many shots it took to hit a branch sticking out of a dead log. I'd rather take a bolt-action out to the bush and hit everything I aimed at, rather than a faster shooting semi-auto that missed.

Both the PAR and ATRS will be very accurate rifles to plink in the bush with, but at $4k (in the configuration I like), the ATRS is a bit much $ for the frequency I'll actually use it. In the bush the ATRS will have the advantage in 3-gun drills, but when have I actually gone out to do that? None. It sounds like a fun idea, but I've never done it yet and won't have the time to do it in the near future. as I have to drive 45 minutes to find crown land.

Everything comes down to money in the end.

 

[quorum]

2 in the hand is better than one in the bush

LOL. I didn't notice the double meaning until now!