Troy PAR Availability?

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Does anyone know why the supply of the Troy PAR in 223 has dried up?

Seems no one has them and this has been the case for quite a while now.

As much as I love SA I feel this is better bet to munch through the large stash of 223 plinking components I have (the bans are getting old and I simply don't trust the Government not to shaft gun owners one more time when the chips are down and they need a bump in the polls).

I think the Troy PAR is the best bet as the pump locks in the forward position (which I know I will prefer) but the 12" Taipan looks like a nimble firearm too. Seems both take AR triggers which is a plus. I see the 12" Taipan is starting to be offered for sale but the Troy is nowhere to be found.
 
The renegades are decent and they come in 12 inch barrels too
They are slide action only though no pump but they shoot better off a bench then the Troy or taipan
Those new 12 inch taipans sure are nice, I have the orig 16 inch one and I like how it handles and shoots
If you really want a Troy you might have to scour the ee until one comes up or wait for a new shipment to come in or get Prophet or IRG to bring one in
 
They are available on the IRG US website. Order through there and they will import it into Canada and ship it you.
 
The Taipan Evo Scout just came out, think you're better off with that (similar price). Troy PAR seems over priced these days, near the start of the year you could find the last few in Canada for like $1250.
 
They are available on the IRG US website. Order through there and they will import it into Canada and ship it you.
Are you sure?

I looked on their US site and when I searched "Pump" under Rifles with no other filters it only had 3 options - the Troy wasn't one of them:

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I've had 2 Troy PAR and 3 Taipan and for a pump/side operated rifle I'll take the Taipan. I have some serious gripes about the Taipan including trigger and that you have to break out your tool box whenever you want to fully clean them but I personally found the Troy "fragile" for lack of a better word. Keep in mind that my use of these sort of rifles are excessive compared to the average user.

I have retired my Taipan rifles as I now am using Crusader semi autos "Backland" aka Gen 2 and they work better than I thought they would.

But if the liberals decide no more semi rifles I will reach for a Taipan before a Troy.
 
I've had 2 Troy PAR and 3 Taipan and for a pump/side operated rifle I'll take the Taipan. I have some serious gripes about the Taipan including trigger and that you have to break out your tool box whenever you want to fully clean them but I personally found the Troy "fragile" for lack of a better word. Keep in mind that my use of these sort of rifles are excessive compared to the average user.

I have retired my Taipan rifles as I now am using Crusader semi autos "Backland" aka Gen 2 and they work better than I thought they would.

But if the liberals decide no more semi rifles I will reach for a Taipan before a Troy.

Interesting.

For me it is between the 12.5" Taipan and 16" Troy PAR.

Pros for the Troy:

1) From what I have read the Troy "locks" into battery and the Taipan does not - feel this would be more intuitive as someone who shoots a lot of semi auto and intuitively pulls the gun hard.

2) Uses AR15 style barrels (less the gas port or maybe it gets blocked?)

3) Looks like it breaks down like an AR15 with two pins so maintenance should be easy


Cons for the Troy

1) No availability

2) Seems they have gotten expensive


Pros for the Taipan

1) More compact

2) Has side charging handle and a pump

3) Cheaper

4) Available


Cons for the Taipan

1) Sounds like a pain to clean and work on

2) Proprietary barrels (why?)


It seems both now take AR triggers so that is a tie

The latest Troy looks like it has gotten a makeover so maybe as part of that they have addressed the weaknesses?

What kind of issues were you seeing with the Troy?
 
Keep in mind my experience with the Troy was right after the 2020 ban and I had to scramble to get "tacticool" but compliant guns up and running. The Canadian 180 's were just coming out. So I am speaking about 2020 Troys and they may be much different now, I have no idea.

They are both pump guns and we are all familiar with pump shotguns like the 870 or 590.

The difference between the Taipan/Troy and the shotguns is when they are short stroked, the shotguns won't drop the hammer. So if you are aware, you can just pull the slide forward a bit more and then pull the trigger and it goes BANG. The rifles can be short stroked, not in battery and you pull the trigger and you get a click. The only solution at that time is to eject the live round and fully operate another round into the chamber. You can't just pull the slide forward, the hammer is already dropped.

I deal with thousands of novice shooters and short stroking is a real issue. Basically, they feel a tiny bit of resistance and stop pumping the slide forward. Its not an issue with people that know a pump shotgun.

But...we aren't dealing with novice shooters here. :)

Pros for the Troy:

1) From what I have read the Troy "locks" into battery and the Taipan does not - feel this would be more intuitive as someone who shoots a lot of semi auto and intuitively pulls the gun hard.

Locking into battery is probably a good thing. For me I don't care when using a pump gun of any sort, I'm pulling forward until I shoot and then I am pulling back. I understand how pulling a rifle into your shoulder is desirable but it's not hard to manage.

2) Uses AR15 style barrels (less the gas port or maybe it gets blocked?)

Yeah, that's a plus if you intend to change the barrel. Most people won't.

3) Looks like it breaks down like an AR15 with two pins so maintenance should be easy

100% easier than toolbox Taipan. Only thing I will say is that with rifles like these, they are not precision rifles so if you are putting 1000 rounds through them per year you really only need to clean once or twice a year


Cons for the Troy

1) No availability

2) Seems they have gotten expensive

Both bad LOL :)


Pros for the Taipan

1) More compact

2) Has side charging handle and a pump

I certainly like that about the Taipan. Easy to shoot fast from standing or use side handle when prone/on benchj

3) Cheaper

4) Available


Cons for the Taipan

1) Sounds like a pain to clean and work on

They ARE a pain to take down. But only when compared to like an AR 15. Ever taken a revolver apart to clean or some other semi auto rifles? The Taipan is easy compared to that...it just has lots of screws.

2) Proprietary barrels (why?)

Good question. Maybe it's an Australian thing

My issues with the Troy is that they had flimsy operating arms that broke and then they were a pain to deal with in Canada. (Maybe there was only one arm? I can't recall)

And the Troys I had felt a bit flimsy. The pump almost felt 3D printed and the operating arm was held on by a couple of screws that seemed bound to work themselves loose.

I think both guns will work fine for the average user. Especially if they are already reasonably competent in firearm use. As with everything, it depends on what is important to you.

In the end, I am just giving my opinion, it sure isn't definitive.
 
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From what I've read, the 'proprietary barrel' is to avoid the AR15 compatibility due to Aus Regs. I've only run a couple hundred rounds thru mine but I have Not had a prob short-stroking - I let the Spring 'do it's thing' and it's fine. And ca $1000 less than a PAR, IF you can find one.
 
The Taipan Evo Scout is selling for $1600 at Marstar and they have the Troy Side Action Rifle (SAR) in stock for the same price.
I have not been paying much attention to the PAR market but I've never seen them for sale at $2600?

The days of buying them for less then a grand have past but that's true of many guns.

(Edit). I just looked at Troy's website and they list the price of the folder at $2170 USD.... wow.
Looks like the SAR is no longer in production.
 
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