TRS-25: Broken Bushnell?

Butcherbill said:
This happens a lot with the sks and scout mounting rails, it’s right over the ejection port and the sks throws brass up and a touch forward.
That’s too bad, we’re they knock offs or legit Bushnell’s?
That’s been my experience, have had mine on two different 12g shotguns and zero issues with the optic end of it. I stripped the threading on the claw part of the clamp but that was my own damn fault, I retapped it to an 8/32” thread and I use a torque driver now to mount it.
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Not knockoffs but I doubt it would matter they're all made in China.

Magellann said:
Send it back and they will replace it for you, no problem.
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Maybe you didn't read my last post. Why would I want to replace one turd with another?

silverfoxdj said:
That should not happen under normal circumstances
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No it shouldn't but I really wasn't expecting much from a $100 Bushnell product. Shouldn't expect much from any Bushnell product to be honest.

Can-down said:
I guess you could just let them know about your experience and make it clear that you don't want any compensation or help from their end.

Simple feedback.
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Bushnell doesn't care, they continue to sell boat loads(literally, as they come from China) of garbage to suckers every day. For the record this is not my first experience with Bushnell junk. Have had plenty of their optics since I was a kid many moons ago and been disappointed with every single one of them. You get what you pay for. I now use Trijicon and Aimpoint for nearly all my guns.
 
AB_blaster said:
Bushnell doesn't care, they continue to sell boat loads(literally, as they come from China) of garbage to suckers every day. For the record this is not my first experience with Bushnell junk. Have had plenty of their optics since I was a kid many moons ago and been disappointed with every single one of them. You get what you pay for. I now use Trijicon and Aimpoint for nearly all my guns.
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Fair enough, I find the 6500's to be pretty nice to my eyes and a good value at around $500 used. I've come to notice that optics is a very personal thing given that we all have different vision..... of course you usually get what you pay for with quality glass but it's surprising how well made some of the mid range stuff is these days.
 
If you get it replaced sell it, free up some of that cash. Everyone has different experience thats for sure. My TRS25 ran great on my 590 A1.
 
Can-down said:
Fair enough, I find the 6500's to be pretty nice to my eyes and a good value at around $500 used. I've come to notice that optics is a very personal thing given that we all have different vision..... of course you usually get what you pay for with quality glass but it's surprising how well made some of the mid range stuff is these days.
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Absolutely we all see the glass differently, which is why talking about glass is almost entirely pointless. Short if edge distortion or colour tint there's nothing wrong with the majority of glass being used. The internals as far as materials and craftsmanship are what matter.

buji88 said:
If you get it replaced sell it, free up some of that cash. Everyone has different experience thats for sure. My TRS25 ran great on my 590 A1.
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So get another turd and sell/scam another person into buying it?? No thanks. I've seen and heard of plenty more that have failed with minimal use. Take your TRS25 on your 590, invert the shotgun and drop it on the optic. Get back to me on whether or not it works.. My Aimpoints and my Trijicon products all work after doing that.
 
Yes, your shotgun is a red dot killer. Those Bushnell red dots won’t stabd a chance. Vortex red dots will last but the screws and mounts work loose.

I have an MKA 1919 and a Derya Mk 10. I’m sticking with irons for them these days :)
 
I like all the opinions, appreciate the feedback. I have used some really cheap red dots (less than $30) that have lasted a long time on my 12 gauges. The semi-auto nature with greater recoil of the MK12 does seem to be killing them. Like I said, I used the same TRS-25 on my AR for thousands of rounds and had no problems with it. For giggles and schitts I bought a $30 holographic reflex sight from China to test on the MK12. I have yet to kill a red dot of that design, other than breaking the glass. I will save the Bushnells for my other toys. I like the iron sights on the derya for backup, but they take too long to get on target when we are shooting moving targets, so I would like to find some optic that works. I do not have the cash to purchase a really good brand name optic; perhaps one day. Cheers.
 
Just get a Vortex Sparc and make sure you tighten up the screws from time to time. The TRS-25 is an ok product but I'm not really a fan. They eat batteries and will get knocked out of zero with really rough treatment. This won't be an issue for 90% of the people that purchase them, but it will be for some.
 
Did you ever try some blue loctite on your screws Gatehouse?
Vortex is the only lifetime fully transferable warranty option that's for sure.
 
Leupold does as well.

My trs-25 has lived on a m305 since day one, nearing 900ish rounds and still holds zero perfectly.
 
AB_blaster said:
Not true, Burris and Bushnell offer the same warranty.
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On electronics? Leopold sure doesn't offer it on the electronic components of their illuminated products last time I looked..... maybe that has changed.
Many companies have upped their warranty's of late but many in the past that had lifetime warranties did not extend it to the electronic components.

Took a quick look, maybe you found something else but this is what I found for bushnell.... they might still replace a unit but they don't have to.
* This warranty is valid for qualifying products within Bushnell Elite Tactical, Elite, Legend, Trophy Xtreme, and Trophy Riflescopes, Binoculars, and Spotting Scopes purchased after January 1st, 2016. This warranty excludes electronic components, Laser Rangefinders, Red Dots, Trail Cameras and cosmetic damage that does not affect the product’s operation or performance (as determined by Bushnell), loss, theft, and damage as a result of unauthorized repair, modification, or disassembly by someone other than a Bushnell Authorized Service Department. Bushnell will, at our option, repair or replace the product with one of equal or similar value and/or specifications.
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Burris does not mention electronics as being limited to less then lifetime, so it looks like they are similar to Vortex!

Good to know.
 
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383SB said:
Leupold does as well.

My trs-25 has lived on a m305 since day one, nearing 900ish rounds and still holds zero perfectly.
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As far as I knew, Vortex was the only company that offerd lifetime fully transferable on electronics.... looks like Burris might as well.
Leupold Full Lifetime Guarantee

If your Leupold riflescope, binocular, or spotting scope doesn’t perform, we will repair or replace it for free - whether you're the original owner or not. You don’t need proof of ownership or a warranty card, and there’s no time limit. We do this because we believe in superior quality and craftsmanship, and we’re confident your Leupold won’t let you down.


Leupold Electronics Limited Two-Year Warranty

Leupold electronic products which include rangefinders, thermal products, and other electronic devices are warrantied against defects in materials and workmanship for two-years from the date of purchase. If the product is found to be defective, Leupold & Stevens Inc. will repair or replace it free of charge, within that two-year period. Proof of purchase may be required to verify warranty.
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Can-down said:
On electronics? Leopold sure doesn't offer it on the electronic components of their illuminated products last time I looked..... maybe that has changed.
Many companies have upped their warranty's of late but many in the past that had lifetime warranties did not extend it to the electronic components.

Took a quick look, maybe you found something else but this is what I found for bushnell.... they might still replace a unit but they don't have to.


Burris does not mention electronics as being limited to less then lifetime, so it looks like they are similar to Vortex!

Good to know.
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Interesting, so much for their lifetime no BS warranty.. Good thing I didn't try to make a claim.
 
AB_blaster said:
Interesting, so much for their lifetime no BS warranty.. Good thing I didn't try to make a claim.
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Yup it's the same BS warranty that Leupold offers..... :)
Of course they may very well just replace it anyways at their discretion.... Cheap red dot replacements makes for good PR.
 
Can-down said:
Yup it's the same BS warranty that Leupold offers..... :)
Of course they may very well just replace it anyways at their discretion.... Cheap red dot replacements makes for good PR.
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Right, which means the sight was never worth $100 anyway if replacing it is more cost effective than repairing it, especially if they do it outside warranty.
 
AB_blaster said:
Right, which means the sight was never worth $100 anyway if replacing it is more cost effective than repairing it, especially if they do it outside warranty.
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It's worth $100, but it obviously costs less to produce and distribute otherwise what's the point?
It's sort of the way the world is moving.... lot's of things that used to be repaired are now to expensive given the cost of a new product and the lack of parts,technicians and facilities locally.
 
Can-down said:
Did you ever try some blue loctite on your screws Gatehouse?
Vortex is the only lifetime fully transferable warranty option that's for sure.
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I loctited the crap out of everything, using permanent locktite. Screws work free, the holes in bases enlarge and finally rip free of the screws....:)

Keep in mind the average guy is probably never going to have these problems. A couple thousand slugs tend to bust things loose in these shotguns. :)
 
Gatehouse said:
I loctited the crap out of everything, using permanent locktite. Screws work free, the holes in bases enlarge and finally rip free of the screws....:)

Keep in mind the average guy is probably never going to have these problems. A couple thousand slugs tend to bust things loose in these shotguns. :)
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Your operation is a good proving ground for long term reliability..... :)
Do they still cover you on Warranty for Commercial use?
 
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