Trudeau's Gun Ban and Buy Back

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RK99 said:
Honestly, that makes you look like an angry and irrational person. It doesn't provide any information or reason why the policy is wrong. As i stated previously, this community would be better served by hundreds if not thousands of gun owners presenting rational and calm arguments to both the politicans and the media. Looking like an angry wingnut is a negative.
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Why do I look angry and irrational? I have spoken to my MP previously and detailed my viewpoint on firearms. This wasn't just out of the blue. It was more of an update.
 
A stripped lower is the only restricted part on my rifles. If a gun grab occurs, I just hope those stripped lowers are not damaged by a mallet. To have a rational discussion you need two rational parties, the lack of one of those parts ends any possibility of reason and understanding
 
Notice that the buy-back is only for legally purchased firearms, owned by law abiding firearms owners who would be complying? So how would this policy encourage criminals to bring in their illegal firearms? How does this policy reduce crime in any way?
 
Marksmen1987 said:
Notice that the buy-back is only for legally purchased firearms, owned by law abiding firearms owners who would be complying? So how would this policy encourage criminals to bring in their illegal firearms? How does this policy reduce crime in any way?
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It doesn't reduce crime and is not meant to. Don't forget that.
 
RK99 said:
Honestly, that makes you look like an angry and irrational person. It doesn't provide any information or reason why the policy is wrong. As i stated previously, this community would be better served by hundreds if not thousands of gun owners presenting rational and calm arguments to both the politicans and the media. Looking like an angry wingnut is a negative.
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Gun owners have been tiptoeing around worrying about how the public perceives them for too long, with $#!t results. Doesnt hurt to show politicians that you are an angry voter imo.
 
Marksmen1987 said:
Notice that the buy-back is only for legally purchased firearms, owned by law abiding firearms owners who would be complying? So how would this policy encourage criminals to bring in their illegal firearms? How does this policy reduce crime in any way?
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Glad to see some of us remember what the OP was about.

Bfranklin said:
It doesn't reduce crime and is not meant to. Don't forget that.
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It's all about buying justine a seat on the UN with billions of taxpayer dollars.
Just think of the real crime that could be stopped with these tens of billions of dollars.

auracle said:
Gun owners have been tiptoeing around worrying about how the public perceives them for too long, with $#!t results. Doesnt hurt to show politicians that you are an angry voter imo.
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The post meant it hoped it was making us angry.
It sees us as irrational peasants for standing up and being counted.
 
Cameron SS said:
You need to just stop. I gave you a detailed explanation of why your source was fake news. Barbados was not cherry picked, it was a central player in your sources argument.

What you are now demonstrating is the cognitive fallacy of consistency bias whereby you are ignoring incoming information which contradicts your opinions and you are manufacturing new arguments to defend a position you are unwilling to abandon.

The rest of your post is so completely filled with unverified assumptions and factual errors that thereis no point continuing.

Just go ahead and google when the liberals came to power and then edit all the rest of your errors while you are at it.

If you want to get off your 199b faux tax evasion high horse and discuss what the willis you are talking about regarding womans rights, social issues and envuronment, Id be happy to. Please bring your A game.
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If you can't understand basic math from the tables you yourself linked to then I can't help you. The numbers are right there and they came from Stats Canada. As for the other issues, the Cons make no secret of their science denial and climate change skepticism. It started with Harper and Scheer is talking bull#### when he says he wants to make moves on climate change. It's typical lies to win votes. They are the party that cares the least about the environment and will do nothing if elected. Women's rights? How many in the party and it's supporters want to re-open the abortion debate? That should be settled but the right can't let it go. The Conservatives have moved far right into populist type thinking that only divides people and causes more problems. Scheer wants tax cuts and a balanced budget. Can't have both. Harper made lots of tax cuts and then ran 6 years of deficits, finally cutting services drastically to eliminate the deficit. Say goodbye to health care, pensions, veterans support, the coast guard, military spending etc. They used to be progressive conservatives but are no longer so. Even many high profile members of the party and former PMs won't support them anymore. But hey, they'll let you keep your guns. Who cares what else the screw up?

I'm done. You all have your minds made up and refuse to look past your biases. I don't need any lessons on looking at data and analyzing it. I've got 25 years of science experience and know how to think rationally and look at numbers. If you guys just can't or don't want to get it then good luck with fighting a ban or anything else. The angry irrational responses here won't win you any arguments or get people on your side. They'll just look at gun owners as crazies and feel less inclined to support you or listen to what you have to say. Good luck.
 
Bfranklin said:
Does anyone know what rights men have that women don't?

Does anyone know what environmental crisis is looming?
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The right wants to remove women's reproductive rights. It's no secret. Look at what's happening south of the border. There's a push for that here in Canada by many people who have supported Scheer. As for the environment listen to all the scientists who actually know what they are talking about. You don't know you ignorant fartwaffles. Look up Dunning Kruger. I'm sick and tired of people who think they know better than the experts. But hey, you have your right wing media and Google. That's better than the science and the people who have actually been studying this for decades. You can call me a troll all you but all I see are abunch of whiney entitled and ignorant people without a clue what they are talking about. Good luck to all of you.
 
I really don't know what you are trying to accomplish here? You are on a firearms enthusiast website talking about how the Conservatives are worse than the Liberals while they are planning a gun ban. Are you trying to recruit people here to vote Liberal when they are blatantly trying to confiscate personal property from the majority of people on CGN? Good for you if you think Justin Trudeau is worthy of another term, but I believe you're on the wrong website to spew your Conservative hate.
 
RK99 said:
The right wants to remove women's reproductive rights.
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No Canadian political leader with a seat will allow it. A couple backbencher MPs are flirting with it, but they'll never get the votes. It's moot.

RK99 said:
here in Canada by many people who have supported Scheer.
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Politicians are supported by all kinds of people. The other day the news went silly about a 0.6% of PPCs initial signatures being nuts (Nazi etc). The party cut ties with them immediately.

You have no control over who donates to you.
When you find out, then disassociate yourself from people who do bad things, or be lumped in with them. That's just the way life works.

Harper for 15 years said he was pro-life, but wasn't going to do anything about it. Scheer says pretty much the same. Live and let live. Tolerance Is a Conservative Value.

The ability for a Conservative to have one view and not beat down someone who has the opposite view, is not a difficult thing to do. A common occurrence.

Unlike justin and the Liberal Party of Canada. Any new MP who isn't pro-choice, won't be allowed to join. The Summer Jobs program, historically used mostly by church organized volunteer organizations, the Liberals said that no money for anyone who didn't sign that they were pro-choice. So much for the Charter. Liberals don't tolerate gun owners, don't even want to be photographed with a gun at a federally licenced shooting range. According to the papers, a 4 year sitting Liberal MP isn't being allowed to run, because she tweeted insufficiently supportively of justin. That's a Live My Way Or Else, not tolerance.

The old joke is
if a Conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a Liberal doesn't like guns, he doesn't allow anyone to have one.


"I came to Ottawa with the firm belief that the only people in this country who should have guns are police officers and soldiers."
-- Allan Rock​
 
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RK99 said:
... Looking like an angry wingnut is a negative.
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Funny you should say that...

RK99 said:
... You don't know you ignorant fartwaffles. Look up Dunning Kruger. I'm sick and tired of people who think they know better than the experts. But hey, you have your right wing media and Google. That's better than the science and the people who have actually been studying this for decades. You can call me a troll all you but all I see are abunch of whiney entitled and ignorant people without a clue what they are talking about. Good luck to all of you.
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Your views are outnumbered here 100:1, and yet none of those hundred have stooped to personal insults... What does that tell you?

You seem like a pretty angry fella. You know, you don’t have to wait until the buy-back to hand over your guns... If your friends or family are concerned about your anger issues, the RCMP have a number they can call...
 
RK99 said:
The right wants to remove women's reproductive rights. It's no secret. Look at what's happening south of the border...
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Sorry, but what...? The Dems are pushing for legal-until-birth abortion rights in some states. The fact that there is some resistance to that isn't indicative of a massive right-wing conspiracy to roll back Roe v. Wade.

And no one in Canada has made any sort of push to roll back those rights. It's a third rail issue in politics, especially in Canada.

This issue is settled and only exists as a left-wing talking point - a way to scare women into voting for the Liberal/Democrat party.

Fear is what underpins most of the Liberal platform at this point, unfortunately.
 
RK99 said:
The right wants to remove women's reproductive rights. It's no secret. Look at what's happening south of the border. There's a push for that here in Canada by many people who have supported Scheer. As for the environment listen to all the scientists who actually know what they are talking about. You don't know you ignorant fartwaffles. Look up Dunning Kruger. I'm sick and tired of people who think they know better than the experts. But hey, you have your right wing media and Google. That's better than the science and the people who have actually been studying this for decades. You can call me a troll all you but all I see are abunch of whiney entitled and ignorant people without a clue what they are talking about. Good luck to all of you.
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i'll never support abortion, but that's just me. I don't believe in killing innocent over bad life choices.
climate change, is something man will never stop, or control.
do you remember the 80's. the catch phrase then was acid rain. guess what genius, we're still here.
 
RK99 said:
The right wants to remove women's reproductive rights. It's no secret. Look at what's happening south of the border. There's a push for that here in Canada by many people who have supported Scheer. As for the environment listen to all the scientists who actually know what they are talking about. You don't know you ignorant fartwaffles. Look up Dunning Kruger. I'm sick and tired of people who think they know better than the experts. But hey, you have your right wing media and Google. That's better than the science and the people who have actually been studying this for decades. You can call me a troll all you but all I see are abunch of whiney entitled and ignorant people without a clue what they are talking about. Good luck to all of you.
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It is unfortunate that you don't see that a lot of what you just said applies to you and your political beliefs.

I will also point out that you have made it abundantly clear that you believe anyone who does not agree with you is ignorant. Typical leftist.

Carry on. I'm enjoying this.
 
Ahhh, the Dunning Cougar. The fiercest and most capable of all the big cats.


Though, how this beast ever came to be the mascot of the intellectual left.... well, I just don't see it.
 
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