Trudeau's Gun Ban and Buy Back

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So you will get a criminal record and lose your pistols as well? How’s life look for you with a criminal record? Employable? Travel? Can’t own a single shot 22?

Exactly. All these guys claiming to take a stand against tyranny aren't going to do Jack about anything. The reason revolutions happen in other parts of the world is because those people have nothing to lose. Here we stand to lose some of our firearms. But we will still have high speed internet and abundant food and multiple sports channels easy mobility and healthcare and fast cars and everything else we enjoy. That's a lot to lose. Most people won't take that chance. That said, there are legal Avenues which can and should be taken in the event of a confiscation. They are going to be very expensive. It's going to be telling who is willing to spend 5 figures on a lawyer fighting this. I will, because I am fortunate enough to be able to. I think quite a few other people will, as well, to the best of their ability. But you guys claiming to be preparing for armed or otherwise unlawful resistance? Don't make me laugh.
 
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So you will get a criminal record and lose your pistols as well? How’s life look for you with a criminal record? Employable? Travel? Can’t own a single shot 22?

So you value a shackled existence more than the rights and freedoms of generations to come?

Very selfish and narrow minded.

Rights and freedoms are worth so much more than any one individuals safety.

This, ladies and gents is the kind of yellow belly that would dodge the draft to fight the nazis.
 
Exactly. All these guys claiming to take a stand against tyranny aren't going to do Jack about anything. The reason revolutions happen in other parts of the world is because those people have nothing to lose. Here we stand to lose some of our firearms. But we will still have high speed internet and abundant food and multiple sports channels easy mobility and healthcare and fast cars and everything else we enjoy. That's a lot to lose. Most people won't take that chance. That said, there are legal Avenues which can and should be taken in the event of a confiscation. They are going to be very expensive. It's going to be telling who is willing to spend 5 figures on a lawyer fighting this. I well, because I am fortunate enough to be able to. I think quite a few other people will, as well, to the best of their ability.

Speak for yourself - but history repeats itself.
We’re in the phase of disarming the citizens.

Let’s review Hitlers plan on what comes next.

Yea, I have a lot to lose now - but what difference is it from now and the near future?
At least now I can take a stand and have a better shot of defending myself than in the future when it’s beyond bleak.

I’ve stood for this country, and I’ll do it again... even if that means standing against it (or what it has become).

But that’s just me... I’ve noticed a very small percentage retain the fundamentals our previous soldiers and serving families had.
Today’s modern age is filled with, for a lack of better term - pussies. And then the next group is super pussies
 
Exactly. All these guys claiming to take a stand against tyranny aren't going to do Jack about anything. The reason revolutions happen in other parts of the world is because those people have nothing to lose. Here we stand to lose some of our firearms. But we will still have high speed internet and abundant food and multiple sports channels easy mobility and healthcare and fast cars and everything else we enjoy. That's a lot to lose. Most people won't take that chance. That said, there are legal Avenues which can and should be taken in the event of a confiscation. They are going to be very expensive. It's going to be telling who is willing to spend 5 figures on a lawyer fighting this. I well, because I am fortunate enough to be able to. I think quite a few other people will, as well, to the best of their ability.

Again...speak for yourself. Not everyone is weak like you. I would happily be the one to stand up for the Canadian way of life and would give up everything I own as well as my life if it meant all other Canadians would benefit.
 
Again...speak for yourself. Not everyone is weak like you. I would happily be the one to stand up for the Canadian way of life and would give up everything I own as well as my life if it meant all other Canadians would benefit.

You're not going to do anything unlawful. You're just rattling a sabre right now. You're not going to grab a bunch of boxes of Cheerios and head for the hills, Wolverine. You're going to acquiesce like everyone else. The only battle you can fight without losing the Comfort to enjoy is a legal battle. I'll be surprised if half of you so-called Defenders of Freedom would even do that.
 
You're not going to do anything unlawful. You're just rattling a sabre right now. You're not going to grab a bunch of boxes of Cheerios and head for the hills, Wolverine. You're going to acquiesce like everyone else. The only battle you can fight without losing the Comfort to enjoy is a legal battle. I'll be surprised if half of you so-called Defenders of Freedom would even do that.

Whatever you say. With friends like you, who needs a Liberal govt?

Typical entitled BC drivel
 
Whatever you say. With friends like you, who needs a Liberal govt?

Typical entitled BC drivel

Lol. I've earmarked $50,000 of my own money to fight this, should it come to a knock at my door. That's way more effective than you holing-up in your back 40 with a week's worth of IMPs waiting for the revolution to start.

I say again, the only effective battle in this fight is litigation. Unlawful resistance is going to result in you losing many of the basic rights and privileges you enjoy, and that your family enjoys. And probably nobody is willing to take that chance.
 
And that's precisely the kind of short-sighted and divisive numbskullery that gets us exactly nowhere. Thanks for your input.

Short sighted?

Yet your plan of defiance is calling on every gun owner to fight for their firearms in court at the expense of 50,000 CAD!!!?

Are you experiencing grandiose delusions or are you so naive as to assume most firearms owners are privileged yuppies?

A resistance movement is only as strong as its members unity. So if all you’re willing to do is rat, demoralize and throw some hundred dollar bills at lawyers, you should just save us all the trouble of trying to convince us you have this communities interests at heart.
 
Wow, guys. The fact the infighting is already this bad, not 48 hours after the election...

Oh, sorry, that must be my intitled BC drivel showing...

We’re just debating a game plan.

So...

Who here has 50k lying around in a drawer they’re willing to throw at a lawyer?
 
I felt some hatred towards immigrants here so I created an account just to post this.
Let me start with saying All Canadians except for Indigenous people are immigrants.
Secondly, I'm an immigrant, RPAL holder and a gun owner and 100% against any gun ban because it doesn't add to the security of Canadians.
In regards to the elections: Yes, most immigrants voted liberals, and righteously did so. Due to some of Harper's ideologies, most of these people are currently afraid what measures can be done by the conservatives against them and their presence/privileges.
Also, I noticed severe lack of awareness of gun laws in both the new immigrant population and the general population allowing Trudeau to lie to the people publicly about these laws. Hopefully, the CCFR can address some of these issues.

I’m of Arabic origins, a huge freedom lover and gun enthusiast......sadly enough, a lot of immigrants vote liberal and that drives me banana ! But again, the Cons must in the future do more to make these people secure and feel part of the family. Ironically, most of the Arabic community tend to have conservatives values and will not hesitate to join the conservative movement if they feel they’re welcome. As for me, I have never been more depressed by an election like this one....20 years in this country, and I feel like i’m Back to square one.
 
I'm a French Canadian, I live in Montreal.
I voted CPC. Since I'm in Trudeau's county, it didn't make any difference. However, what I can do is to introduce new people to firearms. We are 260,677 Canadian adults with a federal firearm licence who own at least one handgun as of 31 March 2019. Let's make it double this year.
At my range, I can bring a guest for 10$ and its free if that guest is a woman. I pay for the ammo and fees. I got my girlfriend and 2 of my friends to get their RPAL so far.
All three where pretty much anti-gun before.
Media misinformation leads to false believes and fear.
There is nothing like a positive experience to change negative perception.
Maybe paying for one's RPAL would be a good investment ?
 
I'm a French Canadian, I live in Montreal.
I voted CPC. Since I'm in Trudeau's county, it didn't make any difference. However, what I can do is to introduce new people to firearms. We are 260,677 Canadian adults with a federal firearm licence who own at least one handgun as of 31 March 2019. Let's make it double this year.
At my range, I can bring a guest for 10$ and its free if that guest is a woman. I pay for the ammo and fees. I got my girlfriend and 2 of my friends to get their RPAL so far.
All three where pretty much anti-gun before.
Media misinformation leads to false believes and fear.
There is nothing like a positive experience to change negative perception.
Maybe paying for one's RPAL would be a good investment ?

Good man.
 
Listen guys I understand every point brought up here...I've experienced many myself, even the most extreme ones. I understand the f**k it mentality to stand ones ground, I've been in the military and that runs in our veins, but needless sacrifice never won a war. Especially if one of us goes down in blaze of glory it will not serve our cause...it will justify their actions. We tried uniting under the conservative and it almost worked, we must continue to pressure them not to let our community down and be our voice in the parliament. But for the legal appeals we must do it as a group and not as an individual. An association must champion the cause, wether the CCFR or the CSSA and we must massively endorse them and chip in as we can...some 5$, some 50k$. That's how we have a chance...any war is a team sport not an individual contest.
 
I'm a French Canadian, I live in Montreal.
I voted CPC. Since I'm in Trudeau's county, it didn't make any difference. However, what I can do is to introduce new people to firearms. We are 260,677 Canadian adults with a federal firearm licence who own at least one handgun as of 31 March 2019. Let's make it double this year.
At my range, I can bring a guest for 10$ and its free if that guest is a woman. I pay for the ammo and fees. I got my girlfriend and 2 of my friends to get their RPAL so far.
All three where pretty much anti-gun before.
Media misinformation leads to false believes and fear.
There is nothing like a positive experience to change negative perception.
Maybe paying for one's RPAL would be a good investment ?

You're doing more than most of us!
 
I'm a French Canadian, I live in Montreal.
I voted CPC. Since I'm in Trudeau's county, it didn't make any difference. However, what I can do is to introduce new people to firearms. We are 260,677 Canadian adults with a federal firearm licence who own at least one handgun as of 31 March 2019. Let's make it double this year.
At my range, I can bring a guest for 10$ and its free if that guest is a woman. I pay for the ammo and fees. I got my girlfriend and 2 of my friends to get their RPAL so far.
All three where pretty much anti-gun before.
Media misinformation leads to false believes and fear.
There is nothing like a positive experience to change negative perception.
Maybe paying for one's RPAL would be a good investment ?

Well done sir. Thank you.
 
I'm rather new here and, if I may, I'd like to throw in my 2 cents as "an outsider".

I feel gun owners need a strong but moderate and credible voice to speak out for them -- well, for us. I'm not comfortable with the whole "it's my god-given right and if Libtards come for my guns they'll get the bullets" position. This is exactly what reinforces the assumptions of gun-illiterate people. It feeds the media bias. It empowers those who paint gun owners as extremists, misfit survivalists, and violent outcasts. In the end, while it certainly helps to vent out, this stubborn mentality may very well be what shuts down our hobby once and for all.

Hell, I'm not even comfortable with people not registering their unrestricted hunting rifles in Quebec as a "protest".

Now don't get me wrong. I understand the Liberals' plan is ludicrous and stupid. However, it sounds perfectly sane to the average Joe.

As others have mentioned (I have not read the entire thread, tbh), any challenge to the C-71 Bill and its application need to be formal and organized. Reasonable and well-spoken representatives should keep in touch with the media nationwide and help explain what's wrong with the proposed legislation -- not in a defiant manner, but in a genuine rapprochement effort.

Instead of collectively spending thousands on stripped lower receivers in the hope it will complicate things for the RCMP, these funds could go towards an articulate campaign to inform the public and explain why the new changes are a waste. They need to understand how this money could be put to better use that could truly make a difference and make our communities safer. For example, by investing in mental health and various support programs.

We need to thread lightly when discussing with the public, the media, and the politicians. They're right to be scared of the mass-murders going on down south, of the growing gun violence in our major cities, and of a gun in general. Their concerns shouldn't be brushed in disdain, but rather addressed with care.

We like shooting. And if we wish to preserve our privilege to shoot, we need to acknowledge it is a privilege. We need to support no-nonsense measures that aim at reducing gun violence. We should be the first to protest when someone brags about having received their RPAL in a week without any background check or having their references called -- the same way we protest when the bureaucracy makes it too long on purpose. We need to be protectors of the sport, upholding the law that makes us different from our open-carry, violence-ridden neighbours.

I know most of us are moderate and law-abiding gun owners. But some aren't. And sometimes, their outspoken resistance tends to harm us, especially in the delicate and unfortunate situation we find ourselves in right now.

We don't need more guns. We need more moderate voices.

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I hope I don't come out as insulting, because it is not my intention. It took me about a year to complete my courses and receive my RPAL by mail. I am presently waiting for the transfer of my first handgun to be approved, and I also ordered an AR-15 lower receiver because it's a fun platform. I find the whole process long, expensive, and complicated -- AND I THINK IT'S OK.

My wife, who isn't a gun fan at all, feels safer knowing it's very strict. The general public would feel safer too if they knew. But they often don't. And it should be our duty to help people understand it is safe. Not convince them that it's our right and that they should shut up or else.

Cheers!
 
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