Trudeau's Gun Ban and Buy Back

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madashell said:
Yeah, I'm a liberal plant for pointing out treason by our government.... yeah sure.

You a paid troll or a cop ? Which is it ?

(like you'd tell the truth with your track record thus far in this thread).
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Lol
Sorry, I meant let me guess you're going to accuse me of being paid by werneck or Butts.

I'd definitely take money if someone wanted to pay me to troll people (butts if you're reading this pm me).

I wouldn't mind being a cop to be honest.
 
GuiltySpark said:
Democratic societies vote their government's in to power and societies generally guide the directions laws take. Like abortion, ### marriage and pot possession.

If a society feels a law is wrong then they'll start the process to change it ie voting in governments that will action change.

As mentioned police have some discretion on minor things like traffic violations. Less so for a law like making firearms prohibited and ordered to confiscate them.

Instead of biting your nails about the police put your energy into changing the government.
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So goverments always follow through with their advertised platforms? Where is this utopia you speak of? i'd like to move there.
 
madashell said:
You have a pretty strange agenda for being a so called concerned Canadian gun owner and I highly doubt I'm the only one seeing that.
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I want to keep my guns as much as you.

I think it's a waste of energy to vilify police who would be doing the job they're trained and paid for to do.

If police refused they'd simply be fired and replaced, possibly with someone more left leaning. Is that something we want? I personally don't think so.

Instead of lamenting about police telling strangers they would do their job and confiscate firearms etc.. etc.. We should be figuring out how to prevent Trudeau both from attempting to make good on his promise or disrupting it after the fact.
 
GuiltySpark said:
Democratic societies vote their government's in to power and societies generally guide the directions laws take. Like abortion, ### marriage and pot possession.

If a society feels a law is wrong then they'll start the process to change it ie voting in governments that will action change.

As mentioned police have some discretion on minor things like traffic violations. Less so for a law like making firearms prohibited and ordered to confiscate them.

Instead of biting your nails about the police put your energy into changing the government.
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Democracy ≠ morality. There are fundamental truths and natural laws that cannot be altered by mob rule. For example, I would feel completely justified and feel no guilt if I shot an SS or KGB officer in the head. The Bolshevik Revolution was supported by the people, as was the National Socialist party. Or if I shot a violent criminal with a concealed carry handgun, regardless of what the democratic law says. Or if I conducted insurgent operations against a communist govt even if it has the support of the people. Human rights and the liberty of peaceful people cannot be taken away by majority vote.

Remember: a democratic vote does not make an immoral action moral. If it's wrong for you (in the absence of any laws) to unilaterally break down your neighbors' door and arrest and lock him in a cell for possession of a firearm, then it is also immoral for the govt to do the same thing. Exactly the same as someone peacefully growing and smoking a naturally occuring plant.

A simpler example. 10 men are stranded on an island and have a vote on what to do. 9 of them vote to eat the 10th man. Did the democracy make it ok for them to murder and eat the person? Or do fundamental individual rights trump democracy?
 
auracle said:
So goverments always follow through with their advertised platforms? Where is this utopia you speak of? i'd like to move there.
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I can tell you the utopia isn't under the Conservative government. They were in power for 10 years and didn't really challange or change anything firearms related.

They simply enjoy being the defacto gun owners only friendly political party. They just have to maintain the status quo and not change anything and they'll still be the gun owners party. Pretty shady if you ask me.
 
rifleman762 said:
A simpler example. 10 men are stranded on an island and have a vote on what to do. 9 of them vote to eat the 10th man. Did the democracy make it ok for them to murder and eat the person? Or do fundamental individual rights trump democracy?
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The problem with this example, is that it neglects to mention that the island started out with 20 men... #10 is just mad that it's his turn, lol.
 
rifleman762 said:
For example, I would feel completely justified and feel no guilt if I shot an SS or KGB officer in the head.
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Which outside of a self defense or live combat scenario would be murder.

Arguably making you no better than the SS or KGB officer.


A simpler example. 10 men are stranded on an island and have a vote on what to do. 9 of them vote to eat the 10th man. Did the democracy make it ok for them to murder and eat the person? Or do fundamental individual rights trump democracy?
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10th man better be tough.



About democracy.
In a pure democracy, laws are made directly by the voting majority leaving the rights of the minority largely unprotected.
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In Canada's case it's not even a voting majority but a matter of seats. We need to change it. Will we? Not when it benefits the Liberals and Bloc so much.
 
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Serious question: Am i able to destroy my own firearms and then report them to the firearms centre as destroyed?? I have a lower thats cracked and id ratger deal with it myself than have to hand it over
 
Conservatives had way more votes than communists and yet communists won!?! This year was the very first time me and my family ever voted.
CPC won the popular vote and still lost the elections. Why people even vote if majority's will means nothing?
This is what we should protest and rally about!! This tyrannical crap is worse than Iran or Venezuela...
We all voted, we expressed our will, we won by over million votes in our favor, and yet the red socialists/Marxists won.
I know very little about Canadian election system, but common sense dictates if people's will is expressed by over millions of votes in favor of CPC they should become the ruling party!? I mean, that is how things work everywhere else in the world.
 
They want the guns because then you are powerless to fight back and the end game is, they want you dead.

Period.

In the EU they are legislating farms out of existence, unless billions of people die the UN agenda 2030 goals are impossible to meet.

Time to get your head out of the clouds, guns are just the first thing to go, then everything else will go after they have them.

Yea and Martin Armstrong knows exactly what he is writing about.



Europe is Losing 1,000 Farms Per Day & Climate Change Regulations May lead to Starvation

"The new EU Agriculture Commissioner has publicly stated that Europe loses 1,000 farms per day.

He acknowledged that the EU is losing 400,000 farms per year.

However, crop and livestock production in Europe is projected to decline and maybe completely abandoned Europe’s southern and Mediterranean regions due to the increased negative impacts of climate change, according to a European Environment Agency (EEA)."

The study says that adapting to climate change must be made a top priority for the European Union’s agriculture sector if it is to improve resilience to extreme events like droughts, heatwaves, and floods. But the obsession with Climate Change in Europe which is destroying its economy and now its ability to even grow food many are concerned will lead to starvation once again as was the case in Ireland because of the British Corn Laws which prohibited the importation of grain from America.

The nonsense of Climate Change seems to be poised to accomplish what it is designed to do – reduce the population. The question that needs to be answered is: Whose grandchildren are we trying to prevent from being born? Those who do not believe in Climate Change created by Humans? Certainly not the promoters or politicians. So it must be the rest of us they want to starve.

It certainly appears that perhaps this is the backdrop as to why we may see a rise in agricultural prices into 2025 and our computer is showing this should be a cost-push inflationary wave.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/...te-change-regulations-may-lead-to-starvation/
 
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