Try Again - HUNTING SAFETY

OP,
We, as a sport body, have already identified that there are some improper practices going on. What did we do? We made them against the law. Just like drug traffic and use, burglaries, rape, murder, etc., are illegal so too are various "truck hunter" practices. However, you don't seem to have made a lot of progress in reducing the amount of illicit drug use, burglaries, rapes, murders, etc., so what makes you think that you can reduce the amount of illicit "truck hunters"?
The only people who are going to obey the laws are those who wouldn't break it in the first place. Hence the gun registry. People don't want to be offenders so they complied with an unconstitutional law. I am sure that there are quite a number of firearms out there that are not registered and their owners have no intentions of ever registering them. They are now criminals.
If you don't want to obey a law, then you don't have to until you are caught breaking it. You can exceed the speed limit for a few years, but once you are caught you will have to pay. I know people who have no licenses who still drive drunk. (I just don't know when they are doing it since they live several thousand km away).
Want to make a difference? Call the DNR every time you see a violation. Give them pertinent info: vehicle make and model, tag#, what they were doing, etc.
When I was younger, the DNR guys didn't come into the area I lived and hunted. They stayed on the main roads. The generation between me and my dad in that area poached HARD!! However, they would also have no qualms about shooting the game warden if they encountered one. To them the penalty was just as stiff either way. You learn to adjust, and watch yourself.
You need to take a stand and store the poacher's hotline # on your phone and call everytime. There is advice and a suggestion.
 
I wouldn't say frightened at all but I guess a little frustrated, especially when it is so in your face and the culprits usually get away with serious incidents.

I still hunt don't get me wrong, not gonna stop that, it just seems like easy preventative measures that could solve many issues.

Most of us try our best to do things proper and within the laws and it is a few small incidents that give grief to the law abiding hunters.

We just have less land to hunt and less people that want us hunting on it. It would be nice if that changed.




hillmanr2 said:
Mm Kay
I still don't get it, but now I understand your problem with head shots. If you want to change things in your area offer to take out new hunters. I would guess many of the "truck" hunters, similar to those in that video that was posted, have never had a hunting mentor. They know nothing of the bush, tracking and looking for animal sign. So start there.

Accidents happen, people get run over, hurt at work, people break bones and even get paralyzed in sports and planes crash. Perhaps ask god why bad things happen. It is to bad you have become frightened of the sport you enjoy, perhaps it is time to hang it up and call it a day.
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Kelly Timoffee said:
I wouldn't say frightened at all but I guess a little frustrated, especially when it is so in your face and the culprits usually get away with serious incidents.

I still hunt don't get me wrong, not gonna stop that, it just seems like easy preventative measures that could solve many issues.

Most of us try our best to do things proper and within the laws and it is a few small incidents that give grief to the law abiding hunters.

We just have less land to hunt and less people that want us hunting on it. It would be nice if that changed.
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Can you give examples of easy preventative measures?
 
So..just to recap..

A)..More laws and regulations will not stop people from breaking them.this is proven everyday..watch the news..

B) Hunting areas have not shrunk..there is still as much land in Canada as there was 100 years ago. When most of the population moved from rural to urban..the connection between neighbour to neighbour was lost.
If one still takes the time to get an R.M map..and actually phone the landowners..they are 99% of the time willing to let you hunt.
 
Not going towards more rules and regs at all. I think education is the important issue. . Also I think a lot of old school hunters not being aware of the safety concerns today may have mentored younger hunters thus not being aware of what can really go wrong out there. I totally agree , people will break laws and there is very little we can do about it, but it is not laws I am talking about, .Gotta remember that hunter education hasn't been taken by everyone out there either.

As for the hunting areas they have shrunk. The land is still there, yes, but due to heavier posting, new construction, forestry, urban areas expanding, I do believe we are loosing "available" hunting territory. I think the Ontario and BC folks can see this more than in the prairies but from what I see in my travels there is less places to hunt.

As for easy preventative measures, the easiest ones would be education. It would be nice to have more people educated with ethics and laws. I also do believe that some hunters honestly do not know many of the rules for hunting and landowners rights. These are the ones we have to educate and instill positive and safe values in.

If one person reads this thread and thinks twice about doing something they are unsure about when hunting then I believe we made progress. I hope.
 
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Kelly Timoffee said:
Not going towards more rules and regs at all. I think education is the important issue. . Also I think a lot of old school hunters not being aware of the safety concerns today may have mentored younger hunters thus not being aware of what can really go wrong out there. I totally agree , people will break laws and there is very little we can do about it, but it is not laws I am talking about, .Gotta remember that hunter education hasn't been taken by everyone out there either.

As for the hunting areas they have shrunk. The land is still there, yes, but due to heavier posting, new construction, forestry, urban areas expanding, I do believe we are loosing "available" hunting territory. I think the Ontario and BC folks can see this more than in the prairies but from what I see in my travels there is less places to hunt.

As for easy preventative measures, the easiest ones would be education. It would be nice to have more people educated with ethics and laws. I also do believe that some hunters honestly do not know many of the rules for hunting and landowners rights. These are the ones we have to educate and instill positive and safe values in.

If one person reads this thread and thinks twice about doing something they are unsure about when hunting then I believe we made progress. I hope.
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If it saves just one life:p
 
"B) Hunting areas have not shrunk..there is still as much land in Canada as there was 100 years ago. When most of the population moved from rural to urban..the connection between neighbour to neighbour was lost.
If one still takes the time to get an R.M map..and actually phone the landowners..they are 99% of the time willing to let you hunt. "

Wrong. Higher population owning more rural and semi rural land, less people who support hunting, equals less "real" land to hunt on. More commercial interests tearing up wilderness areas etc. FWIW - dan
 
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