trying to to decide between various .22's to buy
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Got a Ruger MK3. Great gun. Good heft, accurate AND reliable.
Had a Kadett also (with a CZ85 Combat lower): Not as accurate but great pointability from the CZ design. I liked it.
A friend of mine had a Walter P22: Very small frame. Pretty accurate but a lot of FTF and FTE due to faulty mags. It really plagued the first generation. They did change the mags free of charge but the main problem is the smallish frame. Great for my girlfriend. Don't think you're buying a P99. It's a scaled down P99.
Saw a mosquito but did'nt get to try it.
My chocie: my good'ol ruger. Customizable, reliable and accurate. Only draw back is that it's a real pain to strip.
My next 22 though will be a Beretta 89. Now that's a good looking gun. Hard to find though.
Good luck
Had a Kadett also (with a CZ85 Combat lower): Not as accurate but great pointability from the CZ design. I liked it.
A friend of mine had a Walter P22: Very small frame. Pretty accurate but a lot of FTF and FTE due to faulty mags. It really plagued the first generation. They did change the mags free of charge but the main problem is the smallish frame. Great for my girlfriend. Don't think you're buying a P99. It's a scaled down P99.
Saw a mosquito but did'nt get to try it.
My chocie: my good'ol ruger. Customizable, reliable and accurate. Only draw back is that it's a real pain to strip.
My next 22 though will be a Beretta 89. Now that's a good looking gun. Hard to find though.
Good luck
May I recomend some Smith & Wesson models perhaps? You can find some really inexpensive S&W model 622's which are not only better looking then most .22 pistols out there but from my experiences with them, very very good shooters. I traded off my 622 a while back but still have the S & W Model 2206 which is basicly the same thing but built a little more robust ( heavier ). If you can find a 2206 ... I would say jump on it. ( Some poeple dont like the Smith & Wesson .22's, never understood why though )
I've owned a Walther P22 that I bought for my wife in hopes it would get her into target shooting with me. Didn't work.... I shot it for a while, like said earlier very small even though you can switch up back straps. I didnt have much problems with the FTF and FTE's but did seem to get rained on by flying hot brass
If you got small hands, I wouldn't laugh at you if you bought one. I've never fired or even seen the SIG Mosquito, but from what ive read... not so good.
The CZ Kadet is not a bad idea. I assume you own a CZ 75 , but c'mon, lets face it here, you want another pistol. I think you would get bored in having to switch up the slides and always shooting the same pistol. I did that with the Kimber .22 package for one of my 1911's. I ended up buying a lower frame just to dedicate to it rather then swapping back and forth.
Ruger, everyone loved them exept me. I just dont like the look or the feel really. Looks like a toy or something as opposed to a pistol. But people swear by them as being super reliable and great shooters.
my 2 cents.
Just to recap after all that rambling, have a gander at some Smith & Wessons. There ###y, reliable and accurate. Can't go wrong with that
I've owned a Walther P22 that I bought for my wife in hopes it would get her into target shooting with me. Didn't work.... I shot it for a while, like said earlier very small even though you can switch up back straps. I didnt have much problems with the FTF and FTE's but did seem to get rained on by flying hot brass
If you got small hands, I wouldn't laugh at you if you bought one. I've never fired or even seen the SIG Mosquito, but from what ive read... not so good.The CZ Kadet is not a bad idea. I assume you own a CZ 75 , but c'mon, lets face it here, you want another pistol. I think you would get bored in having to switch up the slides and always shooting the same pistol. I did that with the Kimber .22 package for one of my 1911's. I ended up buying a lower frame just to dedicate to it rather then swapping back and forth.
Ruger, everyone loved them exept me. I just dont like the look or the feel really. Looks like a toy or something as opposed to a pistol. But people swear by them as being super reliable and great shooters.
my 2 cents.
Just to recap after all that rambling, have a gander at some Smith & Wessons. There ###y, reliable and accurate. Can't go wrong with that
CZ Kadet is the best out of your list. I have a Ruger Mark III 2245 which is a cute ugly little gun and is fun to shoot. Had a 2nd generation Walther p22 before and those small screws keep come loose. The newest seems to be good.
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I got a ruger mkII stainless target and I love it. It's not as bad to field strip as they make out once you figure it out (especially a used one that isn't so tight). The one thing I did to it that helped was put in a trigger shield I made out of a beer can that prevents the trigger pull going gritty from fouling. It is nice and hefty and fun to shoot all day. I took a mkII over the mkIII because all the new BS features piss me off (especially the mag safety).
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We're comparing two different classes of .22 pistols here.
The first class are the plinkers/combat pistol types. The Sig mosquito, Walther, CZ conversion etc etc.
The second class is the very entry level target pistol/plinker. The Ruger target models, Browning buckmark etc.
The first is good fun for lots of plinking. They feel closer to a "real" pistol than the others but generally aren't as accurate. When you get a good one though, they can generally go longer without requiring a complete cleaning before you get problems.
The second group tends to be heavier (compared to the plinkers and the high end target pistols) fairly accurate but require more cleaning and feel less like a modern combat pistol.
Personally I have two Ruger MKIII s. The black target bull barrel and a Hunter that I had target sights put on. They are both excellent. They do require a lot of cleaning however and the take down is a pain compared to the Sig, Walther etc.
As for the MK2 vs MK3. The mag release being in the right spot more than makes up for the safety features. The safety features aren't even noticed by most. The mag safety is nothing to get upset about. Even many current police pistols have that feature and you aren't buying a MK3 as a combat pistol any ways.
The first class are the plinkers/combat pistol types. The Sig mosquito, Walther, CZ conversion etc etc.
The second class is the very entry level target pistol/plinker. The Ruger target models, Browning buckmark etc.
The first is good fun for lots of plinking. They feel closer to a "real" pistol than the others but generally aren't as accurate. When you get a good one though, they can generally go longer without requiring a complete cleaning before you get problems.
The second group tends to be heavier (compared to the plinkers and the high end target pistols) fairly accurate but require more cleaning and feel less like a modern combat pistol.
Personally I have two Ruger MKIII s. The black target bull barrel and a Hunter that I had target sights put on. They are both excellent. They do require a lot of cleaning however and the take down is a pain compared to the Sig, Walther etc.
As for the MK2 vs MK3. The mag release being in the right spot more than makes up for the safety features. The safety features aren't even noticed by most. The mag safety is nothing to get upset about. Even many current police pistols have that feature and you aren't buying a MK3 as a combat pistol any ways.
The MkII heel release is fine. It isn't a combat pistol and you aren't dropping your mags anyways, so the weak hand has to come there anyway. But the mag safety means that dry fire practice is a huge hassle (and yes, it is ok to dry fire them).
There are probably a million threads regarding .22 handguns.
They almost always end up in the "Ruger vs. Browning" theme.
I've got 2 Buckmarks and a MKIII bull barrel.
All great shooters, no issues (other than the aforementioned cleaning) and I will never sell them.
I do believe there is a 22/45 on my short wish list!
They almost always end up in the "Ruger vs. Browning" theme.
I've got 2 Buckmarks and a MKIII bull barrel.
All great shooters, no issues (other than the aforementioned cleaning) and I will never sell them.
I do believe there is a 22/45 on my short wish list!
I have the Walther and the Sig. Like them both. Search the Sig, and you will find all Mosq. need to be srtipped and lubed when you get it home and use CCI mini mags. I was pissed when I bought mine but soon learned EVERYONE was having the same problem, it is a picky eater. Once you do this you will love this gun as a practice piece and fun plinker.
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The CZ kadet is a good idea, especially if you already own a CZ 75. You should also look at the Browning Buckmark, as it comes in a wide range of configurations to satisify your needs for either plinking or target shooting.
I would like to point out that all of these problems people have been having with Sig Mosquitoes are from the first ones to come out... I bought one a few months ago and havnt had any problems with it (well the odd FT) but it was the ammo I was using. In my opinion they are the best .22 pistol out there, they just fit me the best and I love the looks of it and it shoots like a dream. For about 500 dollars it is a decently priced gun and it is a Sig I havn't ever fired the kadet or even held it but I have shot the ruger and I found it not to my liking, I didnt liek the feel of it and it was a little on the heavy side for a .22 and I hated the safety on it and to lock back the slide you have to reach the safety while trying to hold the slide back and keep the gun pointing in a safe direction... Just not the gun for me I guess but people seem to liek them. If you do decided to get a Sig Mosquito I would reccomend using cci mini mags or remington target loads. Those seem to work best for me. Also another thing about the Sig is it is the only .22 pistol I am aware of that comes with a spring to make it so you can shoot high volocity ammo
Just my 2 cents.
Josh
I havn't ever fired the kadet or even held it but I have shot the ruger and I found it not to my liking, I didnt liek the feel of it and it was a little on the heavy side for a .22 and I hated the safety on it and to lock back the slide you have to reach the safety while trying to hold the slide back and keep the gun pointing in a safe direction... Just not the gun for me I guess but people seem to liek them. If you do decided to get a Sig Mosquito I would reccomend using cci mini mags or remington target loads. Those seem to work best for me. Also another thing about the Sig is it is the only .22 pistol I am aware of that comes with a spring to make it so you can shoot high volocity ammo Just my 2 cents.
Josh
Rugers are nice, But 1911,CZ and Glock conversion kits all rock!! Plus they allow you practice with the same gun.
The SIG and Walther 22lrs Suck unless you have the hands of a 6yr old and the feel like cheap airsoft toys.
I have a CZ SP01 and CZ kadet Conversion kit and boy do I love it
The SIG and Walther 22lrs Suck unless you have the hands of a 6yr old and the feel like cheap airsoft toys.
I have a CZ SP01 and CZ kadet Conversion kit and boy do I love it
I just bought a Mosquito for $550. I hope to pick it up before the end of next week and will do a write up of what I think.
I've already got a ton of ammo for it, everything from sub-sonic to Hyper-sonic. I have heard that sub-sonics are a no-no for anything auto, but we'll see.
I've already got a ton of ammo for it, everything from sub-sonic to Hyper-sonic. I have heard that sub-sonics are a no-no for anything auto, but we'll see.
One of the cheapest ($350), and IMO best looking 22's out there is the Browning Buckmark stainless camper. It's the one on the left hand side of the picture.
My buddy had a shiny new stainless Mosquito that was full of misfeed issues ,so I was between the Ruger and Browning. I was steered towards the Browning as i was told they are more complicated to disassemble.
P.S. I LOVE the contour grips that come on the Browning .
Mike
My buddy had a shiny new stainless Mosquito that was full of misfeed issues ,so I was between the Ruger and Browning. I was steered towards the Browning as i was told they are more complicated to disassemble.
P.S. I LOVE the contour grips that come on the Browning .
Mike
