TT-33 in any pistol competition?

I wanna play golf, but all I have is this here hockey stick.
Ergo, golf is stupid.

Wouldn't it be more like "I wanna play golf, but all I have is this here golf club. Ergo golf is stupid."
I sometimes wonder what Cooper, Weaver, et al. would think of what has happened to the shooting discipline they established so many years ago.
 
Wouldn't it be more like "I wanna play golf, but all I have is this here golf club. Ergo golf is stupid."
I sometimes wonder what Cooper, Weaver, et al. would think of what has happened to the shooting discipline they established so many years ago.



Lol... they probably wouldn't like it, but... oh well.

Things evolve and change over time.
 
Is the ammo steel cored or jacketed? I’ve only ever run across the steel jacketed, which mild steel isn’t much different than copper at 2000 FPS...
 
Lol... they probably wouldn't like it, but... oh well.

Things evolve and change over time.

Evolution means improving. Taking a practical defensive shooting discipline and bastardizing it into a game with zero practicality is not evolved.
 
Unless targets are shooting back...
None of these shouting "disciplines" are practical.

They're all games. Fun games.
 
Usually it's because the ammo is steel core and VERY destructive to steel targets. AFAIK It doesn't qualify for calibre restrictions for IDPA as they're not at least 9mm, and not small enough for BUG. Could be wrong on that as I'm no expert.

Ah you were listening. IDPA has the same caliber requirements as IPSC. The minimum caliber is 9MM. That aside the round would seriously damage steel poppers and targets. I would think most indoor ranges would not allow the cartridge be shot on their ranges.

As an aside the cartridge would blow past our minimum power factors. It is a wicked handgun round.

Take Care

Bob
 
Evolution means improving. Taking a practical defensive shooting discipline and bastardizing it into a game with zero practicality is not evolved.

The US Army seems to think there’s enough value in it for the AMU to have a dedicated Action Shooting team taking part in IPSC/USPSA matches since 2004...Same for the USMC Shooting team...but what would organizations like that know about practical shooting, right?
 
The US Army seems to think there’s enough value in it for the AMU to have a dedicated Action Shooting team taking part in IPSC/USPSA matches since 2004...but what would an organization like that know about practical shooting, right?

OR maybe it is a good recruitment drive. Hey you like shooting? the Army does alot of shooting, you should join.

But they also sponsor Nascar.
 
Evolution means improving. Taking a practical defensive shooting discipline and bastardizing it into a game with zero practicality is not evolved.

You are beginning to sound like another fellow from Calgary. He long ago outlived his membership here. I am not sure if TDC posts can still be sourced here. If they can you should read them, nothing you can say about any topic regarding firearms or the sports they attract will be new here. Their return will likely result eventually in the same destiny for you.

Take Care

Bob
ps IPSC, ICORE, IDPA, Rimfire Challenge etc are all fun shooting sports. If you like handguns you cheat yourself if you don't try one of them. They are all "Practical". They exist so folks can develop their shooting skills and have fun doing that. What is not "Practical" about that? Again as a bonus you get to meet lots of very nice people.
 
OR maybe it is a good recruitment drive. Hey you like shooting? the Army does alot of shooting, you should join.

But they also sponsor Nascar.

I’m sure it doesn’t hurt recruitment, but both organizations have clearly articulated the training benefits of competition...So much so, the USMC created a separate award/credit system earlier this year...

“GENTEXT/REMARKS/1. Purpose. Competitive shooting provides unique opportunities for Marines to push the limits of their skills and equipment in order to gain higher standards of proficiency, confidence, and lethality. For decades, traditional precision bulls-eye competitions had been the only venues to push marksmanship limits and enhance proficiency. Recently, however, the action shooting disciplines have grown in both popularity and applicability to enhancing lethality in a dynamic environment.”

https://www.marines.mil/News/Messag...mpetition-credit-for-action-shooting-matches/
 
As near as I can tell, a manual-safety-equipped 9x19mm variant of the TT could be legal in both open and standard divisions and in ESP.

A match director might disagree.

http://legacy.ipsc.org/pdf/RulesHandgun.pdf

https://www.idpa.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/IDPA-Rulebook-2017.pdf

Pretty should he would and should. A quick peek at the RB of both sports and you would know it does not meet minimum caliber requirements.

Wendall I am sure you would agree with me that you and many others get tired of folks wanting major shooting sports to change the rules for them so they can play with their blaster. When it is clear the sports won't the sports are then described as not being "Practical". I have never understood what not being Practical means. We learn how to shoot handguns safely at speed in most of the sports. We compete against others using similar equipment and we have fun doing it. We also get to meet folks we likely would never otherwise meet. What else do you want out of an amateur sport. We only get one run at life. You might as well get as much enjoyment out of it as you can.

Take Care

Bob
 
The US Army seems to think there’s enough value in it for the AMU to have a dedicated Action Shooting team taking part in IPSC/USPSA matches since 2004...Same for the USMC Shooting team...but what would organizations like that know about practical shooting, right?


They, the USAMU put on some pretty good matches I tell ya.



Can you imagine the CFO's reaction to you digging up your range for a stage like this... LOL
 
I got really fast having the TT33 with a mag on, empty chamber and the hammer cocked.
Draw with support hand at the holster and strong hand at the grip. As I cleared the holster I'd grab the slide and rack it as I extended out.
Only ####ty part would be having to do a "make safe" to get it back to that state before holstering.
This was not competition just a lot of shooting and speed drills at my range years back.
 
I got really fast having the TT33 with a mag on, empty chamber and the hammer cocked. Draw with support hand at the holster and strong hand at the grip. As I cleared the holster I'd grab the slide and rack it as I extended out. Only ####ty part would be having to do a "make safe" to get it back to that state before holstering. This was not competition just a lot of shooting and speed drills at my range years back.

 
News to me! Some indoor clubs don't allow hi-vel pistol especially steel-jacketed with steel berms. Clubs without range dividers don't like hi-speed ejected cases from a 7.62X25. Aside from that, should be allowed for outdoor Bullseye and PPC. Not sure about IPSC or IDPA.

No, not allowed for PPC, IPSC or IDPA. 9mm/.357 are the minimum allowed.

In PPC, generally everyone loads down for accuracy; not sure if you could load 7.62 x 25 down to an acceptable level, even if it were legal.

Most indoor ranges (yes, there are exceptions) have disallowed the use of steel core/steel jacketed ammo. The reason we disallowed it at our range is two-fold:

1) the high tensile bullet stop/deflector was gouged and pitted from this ammo. Our range inspector said it had to be repaired in order to maintain range certification. Not only did this require us to shut down the range for a period of time to effect repairs, but grinding and welding on lead residue is not a healthful activity.

2) the high velocity impact of steel core ammo on the high tensile steel often resulted in a shower of sparks, and considering there is always un-burnt powder residue in every range, this poses a heightened risk of fire.

We continue to allow this surplus ammo on the outdoor range.
 
Unless targets are shooting back...
None of these shouting "disciplines" are practical.

They're all games. Fun games.

Practical yes. 100% realistic no. Tough to practice shooting people without shooting people. Kind of like medicine.
You are beginning to sound like another fellow from Calgary. He long ago outlived his membership here. I am not sure if TDC posts can still be sourced here. If they can you should read them, nothing you can say about any topic regarding firearms or the sports they attract will be new here. Their return will likely result eventually in the same destiny for you.

Take Care

Bob
ps IPSC, ICORE, IDPA, Rimfire Challenge etc are all fun shooting sports. If you like handguns you cheat yourself if you don't try one of them. They are all "Practical". They exist so folks can develop their shooting skills and have fun doing that. What is not "Practical" about that? Again as a bonus you get to meet lots of very nice people.

Don't know this other guy you mention, not interested in looking at old posts either. From what you say it sounds like having a different non mainstream opinion isn't permitted?

And no, sorry, IPSC is not practical. The whole setup is not conducive to defensive use of a firearm. In fact, it has been so bastardized that some of the founders left and created IDPA. Which it too has turned into a game with nearly zero roots in defensive use of a firearm. Still, both are fun and regardless of which discipline you shoot the fundamentals are very important.
 
Back
Top Bottom