TT-33 pics
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MapleSugar
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Which gun can handle the high pressure 7.62x25mm surplus better, one of those babies, or a CZ 52? (ie. Which one has the stronger action?)
The Vz 52 is Czech. The surplus is Czech.
Who sells them these days? That picture is lovely
Epps has some at the moment.
Thank ya.. thank ya verr much
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You have excellent taste in literature and firearms. 
Cheers,
Sand
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Sand
MapleSugar
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No experience with the CZ but I bought my T33 from Milarm a couple years ago with a 33kg crate of 7.62x25 (2200 rounds I think?) and fired every single bullet through that pistol. A few fail to fires and the odd stove pipe, but I'm not the most diligent about cleaning and that was a lot of bullets. Since then she's had a few boxes of Polish and some S&B in the yellow boxes. Barrel still looks good, the most wear was on the grips.
The Vz 52 was designed around the Czech version and they remained the standard Czech pistol for 30 years. The Russian service load is lighter than the Czech one moving about 100-150 fps slower. Note that the TT was replaced about 20 years after entering service.
Both guns are engineered around the appropriate cartridge and could reasonably be expected to have a similar service life if correctly maintained. No one designs a firearm to wear out prematurely but I would expect the TT to wear faster under hotter than engineered for loads.
Vz 52 is undoubtedly overly complex for the job it does, the TT as minimal as required to function within spec. Different answers to the same question.
There are numerous reports of CZ-52 going Ka-Boom! when Czech on strip ammo used. The ammo that comes on strips is designed for SMG used by Czech and not for pistol.
If your Cz-52 doesn't explode, the two wheels inside (next to barrel) will get damaged quickly.
Finally, there are NO reports of TT-33 that went bad by using any 7.62x25 ammo including Czech ammo. TT-33 was in use for a very long use and probably is. TT-33 replaced Nagant Revolver, but Nagant revolver was in use up to year 2000 in some government agencies, e.g. train security, etc.
If your Cz-52 doesn't explode, the two wheels inside (next to barrel) will get damaged quickly.
Finally, there are NO reports of TT-33 that went bad by using any 7.62x25 ammo including Czech ammo. TT-33 was in use for a very long use and probably is. TT-33 replaced Nagant Revolver, but Nagant revolver was in use up to year 2000 in some government agencies, e.g. train security, etc.
I hear of a part that breaks in the 52,
I have a TT and also the Norinco copy. I have shot them both and found them 100% reliable. I have surplus brass cased ammo with lead core bullets. Both shoot to point of aim and the Nornco is quite accurate.
Recoil is not excessive. Neat guns.
I hear a lot of ammo will be here soon.
I have a TT and also the Norinco copy. I have shot them both and found them 100% reliable. I have surplus brass cased ammo with lead core bullets. Both shoot to point of aim and the Nornco is quite accurate.
Recoil is not excessive. Neat guns.
I hear a lot of ammo will be here soon.
Why bother with surplus ammo in the first place?
Sure, it's cheap, but if you want the best accuracy, you have to handload. I use .223 brass that the rich guys with fake M-4s litter the range with. Works.
BTW, the chargers that the Czech stuff comes on fit my 1911 Steyr, many of which were converted to handle 9mm P. Just a heads-up for the guys having trouble finding chargers for their converted Steyrs.
OTOH, anybody ever encounter a 1911/12 Steyr converted to handle the 7.62x25? Good guns: somebody's GOTTA have tried it!
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Sure, it's cheap, but if you want the best accuracy, you have to handload. I use .223 brass that the rich guys with fake M-4s litter the range with. Works.
BTW, the chargers that the Czech stuff comes on fit my 1911 Steyr, many of which were converted to handle 9mm P. Just a heads-up for the guys having trouble finding chargers for their converted Steyrs.
OTOH, anybody ever encounter a 1911/12 Steyr converted to handle the 7.62x25? Good guns: somebody's GOTTA have tried it!
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