Tumbling TSX's Help me out.

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So I loaded some 53grn flatbase TSX's 19.5grns Rl-7 for my dads .222rem the rifle is a BSA bolt action . We shot them at 50yards and they keyholed and I cant figure out why, the load worked prefect with the 53grn matchking whats different with the TSX.
 
The TSX bullets are longer than lead bullets of similar weight, so I would guess that the twist rate for your rifle is too slow. Maybe try some 45 gr bullets and see how they work?
 
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I find my BSA to be very short throated. Your TSXs may be pushed back into the case on contact with the lands. Or not. It depends on the curvature of course.
 
The 1-14" twist 222 is definitely "iffy" for the 53 TSX, but occasionally, a 1-14" twist will stabilize them. No rhyme or reason for it, just some small difference in individual firearms. Obviously your BSA will not. You need to try a shorter bullet for your rifle. Regards, Eagleye.
 
Keyholing is caused by undersized bullets or an oversized barrel.
Barnes bullets require Barnes Data. Their site doesn't show Rl-7 for a 53 grain TSX out of a .222. They do say a 1 in 14 twist will not stabilise that bullet.
Their data(limited) is on their site under 'Technical'.
 
They shoot fine out of my model 70 22-250 which is 1-14" and the TSX is nearly the same length as a 50grn v-max which shoots 1/2" groups out of the .222. I guess we will have to get a box of 45grn TSX's for the .222.
Thanx for the response everybody.
 
"...get a box of 45grn TSX's..." The twist needs to be 1 in 12 or faster to stabilize 'em.
"...whats different with the TSX..." A TSX is solid copper. They don't work or fly the same way a lead cored bullet does.
 
I just looked on Barnes web site and the load listed for the .222 says 1-14" twist right above the friggin reloading data and if 1-14" won't stabilize them why would they list the load data when every factory .222 and .22-250 is 1-14". If you look at the data the * denotes a load that won't stabilize in 1-14"and there is no * on the .222 load. The TSX bullet is .798" long and the 50grn V-Max is.780 .019" difference in length and the 53grn Matchking is .022" difference in overall length so I have trouble believing the bullet is to long along with the fact that my 1-14" 22-250 shot them fine. What I am going to check is the actual depth of the rifling on the BSA vs Model 70 as I am wondering if the shorter bearing surface of the TSX is causing some of the problem in the .222 (ie stripping the bullet?). I was hoping someone had a simular problem. Could the extra speed (700fps)of the 22-250 be stabilizing the bullet by increasing the RPM's of the bullet in fight?
 
I just looked on Barnes web site and the load listed for the .222 says 1-14" twist right above the friggin reloading data and if 1-14" won't stabilize them why would they list the load data when every factory .222 and .22-250 is 1-14". If you look at the data the * denotes a load that won't stabilize in 1-14"and there is no * on the .222 load. The TSX bullet is .798" long and the 50grn V-Max is.780 .019" difference in length and the 53grn Matchking is .022" difference in overall length so I have trouble believing the bullet is to long along with the fact that my 1-14" 22-250 shot them fine. What I am going to check is the actual depth of the rifling on the BSA vs Model 70 as I am wondering if the shorter bearing surface of the TSX is causing some of the problem in the .222 (ie stripping the bullet?). I was hoping someone had a simular problem. Could the extra speed (700fps)of the 22-250 be stabilizing the bullet by increasing the RPM's of the bullet in fight?[/QUOTE]

Absolutely.
 
Looked in my barnes #4 manual and there is no listing for RL-7
it has as follows:
win 748 min22.5-max.24.5
RL-10 min19.5-max.21.5
H335 min.21-max.23
IMR4895 min22-max.24
1:12 twist is the min twist rate .
 
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