Tuned SAA 45LC. Are they all the same?

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Hey there,
If you tune up all the SAA clones,are they then equal?
If you had a $500 pietta ,fully tuned up,what would make it any different ,than a fully tuned Smokewagon Deluxe?
 
Can't answer your question...but my Pietta .44mag was a very nice piece...good trigger, transfer bar of course...and great colour case hardening....I'll have another...
 
I've had a Uberti El patron ,cimmeron Evil Roy and a Colt SAA. Didn't find any difference ,other than the Colt was ,well a Colt. The el patron Is supposed to be tuned up ,as is the Cimmeron Evil Roy .
I've been eying a pietta SS .45, it looks very nice. But was wondering if I get it tuned up ,would it be equal,to the others?
 
I wanted to buy an El Patron but when I couldn't find one for the price and specs, I ended up just getting a slightly cheaper Cattleman and slicked it and upgraded the springs. Out of the box it was nice with a very slight bit of grittyness to it and the trigger pull was pretty clean 3.5lbs. After deburring and slicking up, it's now a crisp broken-in 2lb trigger. I'd still like to own an El Patron one of these days but I'd love to see how much of an improvement an El Patron or Smokewagon Dlx would be.
 
I wanted to buy an El Patron but when I couldn't find one for the price and specs, I ended up just getting a slightly cheaper Cattleman and slicked it and upgraded the springs. Out of the box it was nice with a very slight bit of grittyness to it and the trigger pull was pretty clean 3.5lbs. After deburring and slicking up, it's now a crisp broken-in 2lb trigger. I'd still like to own an El Patron one of these days but I'd love to see how much of an improvement an El Patron or Smokewagon Dlx would be.

I remember reading your posts. My El Patron was 3 1/2 average pull. Using a Lyman digital scale. Cimmeron felt the same ,with the Colt ,being the best.
So the Pietta must be way worst? Considering the lower cost. :)
 
My .45 El Patron is still not broken in yet and is right at 2 1/4 - 2 1/2# for an average of 10 pulls. The Smokewagon Deluxe (.357) I had a year ago was 1/4 # lighter at 2 - 2 1/4# average. The Stallion SAA's I had had heavier pulls than that.
 
My .45 El Patron is still not broken in yet and is right at 2 1/4 - 2 1/2# for an average of 10 pulls. The Smokewagon Deluxe (.357) I had a year ago was 1/4 # lighter at 2 - 2 1/4# average. The Stallion SAA's I had had heavier pulls than that.
I did 10 pulls on the Lyman digital and got 3 1/2 average .. but I don't trust the Lyman as it always seemed to read heavier than it should.
 
If you limit yourself to an 1873 original style action for this comparison and then buy and tune up each model from the cheapest to the most expensive then in the end they will all shoot and feel as good as each other. We ARE talking about the same guns after all.

The difference between models within the Pietta and Uberti line up and the specials sold by Taylors and the like reflect the amount of extra care and varying finishes that go into the different models. But by tuning them all to some higher level you also level the playing field.

Right out of the case though is a different story. The more expensive models come with not only nicer finishes and grips but also a higher level of tuning. So there is less to do to them to get to this hypothetical level of tuning.

If you want that level of tuning you have to ask yourself if it's easier, cheaper or more expensive to buy a Smoke Wagon or other higher end version than it is to buy a lower level model and pay a gunsmith to tune it to that same degree.
 
Excellent answer BC.
It's kinda what I figured, but wasn't 100% sure.

I've seen a SS pietta in $500 range ,used of course. Thought if it was tuned for a couple hundred maybe? still come out ahead at $700.
 
Ah, that one. Yeah, I went poking thru the EE after and came across that one. Also saw someone sold an El Patron at a stupid good price too. I'm surprised I missed that one. There's an Evil Roy on there as well with a nice price tag too.

Might run you around $150-250 to slick up, would be my guess. I bought the Wolff springs from Brownells and did the rest of the work myself.
 
I recently sold a El Patron ,under $500. And the Evil Roy , used to be mine as well. :)

Why the interest in a "tuned" Pietta when you already owned two of the best tuned from factory 1873 clones available on the market? Heck, just buy your Evil Roy back for $600 and be done with it.
 
Didn't like the 4 3/4 barrel on the Evil Roy. Kinda regretting,selling the El Patron.
So the SS is what caught my eye.
I'm not to concerned with tuning it up ,as its only a occasional range toy. But I do like modifying,so that's why I ask.
 
Didn't like the 4 3/4 barrel on the Evil Roy. Kinda regretting,selling the El Patron.
So the SS is what caught my eye.
I'm not to concerned with tuning it up ,as its only a occasional range toy. But I do like modifying,so that's why I ask.


Fair enough, in that case and if I was in your situation, I would hunt down a El Patron in stainless with the 5.5" barrel. It's an available version. I'm personally more into buying a tuned from factory factoring the warranty on a new revolver and be certain that the factory smiths that did the job knew exactly what they were doing even though working on a 1873 is pretty basic. my 2 cents.
 
Yes, the 5 1/2 handles much better,to me anyways.
I also had the real deal (Colt SAA) , but after the cool factor wore off ,I sold it as well.
If I ever get another Colt,it'll be antique. At least then I can justify the price.
Anyway ,I'll give the Pietta a spin. It's a done deal.:)
 
I'm sure your gonna love it...
Hmmm,maybe,said I wouldn't get rid of the El Patron ,but I did .
Thought I wanted a Colt,but found out,I really didn't.
There's just something that keeps pulling me back to the SAA.
Maybe this SS is the one:)
Can you buy black,wood grips? Lol
 
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