Turkey Hunting a**hole Shot My Dog !!! ? Updated May 8 By 88 Man

[Mumptia]

And what about when the "houndsman" have been told numerous times not to do it, but continue to??? And if the landowner is getting no where with the MNR, then whats next??

I am talking about the dogs being intentionally started on my property, with the hopes of picking up a trail.

What you are talking about sounds like an exception to the rule. If this was the case I'm pretty sure I'd be steaming too.

With two level heads, random incidents of crossing dogs can generally be dealt with without incident.

Now if a dog owner had a bad case if arsehole-itis, then the playing field might just open up.

Its a tough call, you can shoot a red necks dog and be within your rights, but some people beleive an eye for an eye and well, it just gets plain ol nasty.

I hunt deer in an area where two farmers don't get along and man it gets ugly when the dogs are off their own property.

 

[pottsy]

Absolutely, No Tresspassing means No Tresspassing You do everything you can to stay of & keep your dogs off.
Private Property means exactely what it says, this property is private owned, it doesn't say No Tresspassing. You would of course have to get permission to hunt it because you know it's private.

Perfect as long as well all remember that private property in no way needs to be marked to require permission to be there. If anyone is unsure about the property status go to the local township office and find out if it is privately owned, get permission, bob's yer uncle.

Oh and I checked with the MNR in regards to this regulation:
"Dogs
You must license any dogs to be used to hunt deer, moose or bear. The licence holder or the person who has control of the dogs must carry all dog licences and produce the licences at the request of an officer. There is no limit on the number of dogs that may be licensed and used. Dogs may not run at large in an area inhabited by deer, moose, elk or bear during the closed season."

And they said: "The dogs may be off-leash on private property but may not chase the game animals listed in the regulations you noted."

 

[Mumptia]

Perfect as long as well all remember that private property in no way needs to be marked to require permission to be there. If anyone is unsure about the property status go to the local township office and find out if it is privately owned, get permission, bob's yer uncle.

Careful, in Alberta (I know we're talkin about Ontario here) it doesn't need to be posted.

If the land is not yours and you don't know if its crown or owned best to stay off it and check things out.

No matter what all owned land is protected by the petty tresspassing act.

Which is another can of worms

 

[rip]

" No matter what all owned land is protected by the petty tresspassing act.

Which is another can of worms "

Do I assume correctly that you don't like this law Mumptia? Not picking a fight, just curious about your views.

 

[senior]

And what about when the "houndsman" have been told numerous times not to do it, but continue to??? And if the landowner is getting no where with the MNR, then whats next?? Should l just accept that fact that I have just paid for these guys to have their personally piece of property to run their dogs on??

And I am not talking about dogs ending up on my property by accident or because thats were the coyotes ran. I am talking about the dogs being intentionally started on my property, with the hopes of picking up a trail.

It seems you have a problem that's quite out of the ordinary!
I regret you have the problem you do, but do not blame your troubles & assume all hound hunter are the same, any more than acuseing all gun owners of being criminals because some-one robbed a store with a gun!

The only thing I could suggest to do in your situation is get a large live animal trap & catch a dog or two & force a confruntation between the police & culprits doing this act!

 

[senior]

Perfect as long as well all remember that private property in no way needs to be marked to require permission to be there. If anyone is unsure about the property status go to the local township office and find out if it is privately owned, get permission, bob's yer uncle.

Hunters in this area know where they hunt!
We don't go wondering around other peoples property or hunting areas!
Our camp hunts the same owned 300acres, permissioned 300acres, 400 crown & stays of the width of 150 acres marked No Tresspassing that borders us. One time in 20 or so yrs a dog has went where he shouldn't but I don't believe that should give the owner the right to simply shoot him do you? We've haven't had to look for a dog in 15yr since we quite using BIG hounds. Couch potato beagles know where there meals & love comes from & have no intention of straying that far from home. Most chases last approx 30-to an hr including the time it takes for the dog to come back to the dog man.

 

[mommabear]

 

[Gatehouse]

It's funny all this talk abou tthe "city dwellers" who refuse to let dogs on thier property and how it's the "city dwellers" who are agianst the "unwritten rules" of allowing dogs on your properties etc...

Around here, it's just the opposite. When the city dwellers who ahve moved here see adog on their property, they are more liekly to shoo it away, or go out and pet it, or just ignore it.

It's the "locals" or whatever you want to call them that fling the lead.Rigth or wrong, They dont' tolerate dogs running loose on thier property, or chasing wildlife.

Whenever dog shooting threads come up, I always say the same thing:

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  Nobody loves your dog as much as you do
  Nobody cares as much about your dog as you do
  Dogs get run over by cars or killed/injured in accidents/fights
  There are people that will shoot dogs for various reasons
  Whether thier actions are legal or illegal, right or wrong, your dog is still dead
  A dog under your control is not going to get shot, run over, killed or hurt in an accident, etc
  If you love your dog, keep it under your control

 

[crazy_davey]

If you love your dog, keep it under your control
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And that would take common sense............

 

[Redfrog]

yup

Strange Common sense seems so ........uncommon.

 

[Foxer]

Originally Posted by Gatehouse
If you love your dog, keep it under your control

And that would take common sense............

Amen. As usual, gatehouse brings the voice of reason. There's only one person your pet can count on to look after it, and that's you. Act accordingly, and then you won't need to worry if anyone else knows the unwritten rule or the written rule or anything else.

 

[beretta boy]

Gatehouse is like Mr. Spock ....

Tough to argue with impecable logic !!!

 

[Foxer]

Gatehouse is like Mr. Spock ....

Yes. If mr spock were a rather large burly chef and a drinking man.

 

[Claybuster]

Yes. If mr spock were a rather large burly chef and a drinking man.

And had his own harem.

 

[gth]

H One time in 20 or so yrs a dog has went where he shouldn't but I don't believe that should give the owner the right to simply shoot him do you?.

Of course not. You hunt him for the remainder of the hunt. Then when you radio the camp he is from you say he just showed up today...........

 

[BIGREDD]

So its all cool then for them to run their hounds across your food plots etc Redd?? But heaven forbid some kid take a dump on your property!!!!!

Yup ... dogs are welcome.
Seriously... if you want some help with your dog problem I will be glad to assist. I guarantee that I can catch a hound ... I will not be a party to shooting dogs but I do know most of the hound men in the area and I will gladly negotiate for you. If you catch their dogs just once they won't be back.

 

[bone-collector]

wow sorry to hear bout yer dog 88 hope it recovers , FOXER AND GATEHOUSE I refuse to write any letters pertaining to the dog being shot on this thread as a result of my life being threatened last time helping you two

 

[Foxer]

FOXER AND GATEHOUSE I refuse to write any letters pertaining to the dog being shot on this thread as a result of my life being threatened last time helping you two

Oh you loved it you big sissy.

 

[bone-collector]

yea know someday someone will invent a computer monitor and internet that you can reach through and slap people!

 

[Mumptia]

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Do I assume correctly that you don't like this law Mumptia? Not picking a fight, just curious about your views.[/

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Wouldn't matter if you were picking a fight I wouldn't bite anyway

Heck, I don't mind any land law. I own a small acerage of 6 acres and every now and then I have an issue of protecting my yard and so far a cup of coffee has solved all of the issues. The way I see it, the land laws are not the problems most of the time, its the people that they effect and how they interpret the application.

With the exception of my younger "#### of the walk" years, my respect for land owners has become forthright when I enter new territory. Without respect for the land and the owner, the wheels fall off before you start.

Anyone can stand behind law or policy, stick their fingers in their ears and close their eyes when they have a problem with another about land use, and they'd be within they're rights to do so. Sad thing I've noticed is that for many, being on the defense seems to be a thread in our social fabric as of late and I think that many people do not put enough effort into listeneing. Rather they want to assert themselves to estabilsh lines "to not cross over" ("The Hatfiled and McCoy effect") which is a sense is a backwards form of thought.

There is always and exception to the rule, and when you come across an jerk who just won't listen to reason, what choice do you have but to pull the plug on him and call the law?