Turkish guns

Psychology analysis. Interesting forum banter, indeed.



My hatsan mpa ts has been 100% worth the money but I had to work on it a bit. Gas cylinder was out of round, wouldnt cycle light loads before. It doesnt like 3in magnum slugs. Haha. The bolt smashed the receiver bad and i had to build back up the internal bolt recoil pad.

With that said, id do it again.
 
I have a alpha arms sa01 semi auto and its my skeet gun. Works great , never jams, and very light. I also have the sa-15 mag fed semi auto. Once I found the recoil spring was too tight causing feed issues. I cut 2 coils off the spring and no more jams out of 250 rds of skeet load.

I haven't cut down the recoil spring on my 15SA but I have found it is 100% reliable feeding Crappy Tire Federal Field & Range birdshot. Other birdshot.......... not.
 
If you had said “proven” suppliers, or “highly-rated” suppliers, it wouldn’t have caught my eye. But that “honourable” word (to me) speaks of something much deeper and personal than return policies or inventory selection.

I mean to say, if you call Martin he will be straight forward and do his best to resolve the issue, if you email him you will be shocked with the speed he responds with. He is committed to his products and good customer service, this is not something you see every day. Not to mention his products would be sold for far more by other retailers, and he ensures that they are high quality instead of slapping the cheapest components together to make a buck.

I don't think I've had that experience with any major big box retailer or inventory department.
 
I've found that the biggest thing when it comes to the Turkish shotguns is to pick a reputable dealer that will stand behind their customers. They're budget guns that for the most part function well, but there will be some issues. Like others have said, parts aren't readily available from places like brownells or cabelas like they are for the Mossberg or Remington guns, so the dealer needs to have spares or parts for repairs and warranty work.

In terms of brands, I've heard that there's basically only a few real factories, but they'll print whatever brand logo you want on it, so many of the different brands were probably made in the same place by the same people.

Most stocks seem to fit across the brands for similar styles. Buttstocks seem to be pretty well universal for all Turkish guns, forestocks would probably vary a bit more.

Personally I've had very good luck with any of the shotguns Martin has brought in at Corwin Arms, I've used several hatsan without issue, and a couple of other odds and ends as well. My 5 stand gun right now is one of the original Warrior semis from corwin. Nothing special about it, but it fits me well and I tend to hit more clays, so until it wears out or I get something that works better for me, i'll probably stick with it.

For me it comes down to intended use. As an inexpensive shotgun that I don't mind bumping through the woods hunting, getting wet shooting at the odd duck and a few rounds of clays a year, it fits that use perfectly. I don't expect it to last hundreds of thousands of rounds like a high end skeet or trap gun, but I also don't shoot enough rounds in a year for it to really matter.
 
i have an SXP currently out for warranty repair. The magazine throat broke on one side allowing the trigger assembly to slightly move when cycling. I have had a few shells fail to feed from the magazine because of this. 2000 rnds through it flawlessly before problem. I also have an Axor MF-2. It cycles slugs well and everything else ok. Trigger is not good and the factory sights are terrible and way off from factory. I had to move the front post 1/3 back from the front on the picatinny to zero in. This gun definitely needs upgrading but looks cool and doesn't kick too hard. Sweet case as well.
 
I have over 30 000 rnds thru an asena zr7rc semi from corwin arms. The forend cracked due to my ignornance. I thought the zipper was closed. It was not. I then heard the gun bounce down the entire stair case. An o ring was replaced as i cut it reinstalling the barrel. Again my fault.
A screw that holds the forend spacer agsinst the frame has stripped its hole and is loose if the forend is removed.
Most notibly the bolt lock broke in half recently. One email with a few pictures and martin sent out a replacement free of charge. No questions. The pictures were clear.
Mind you thats well over 30000 rnds in 2 years for a semi that costs less than $400 shipped to my door. Its seen hard use in bad weather. Its fired 1/2 oz loads flawlessly. Its fired 2 oz loads flawlessly.
The only issue is the choke threading. Its standard invector but aftermarket chokes leave a visable gap so im stuck with the fsctory chokes

Ive had several other guns from cowin and all functioned great. I either donated them at charity shoots or passed them onto others who werenot in a spot financially to aquire a hunting gun.

On the flip side i own a tristar that i wont give away due to the problems ive had with it and i wont bury it for some unknown reason. Its been a battle of wills to get it to reliabaly function and after several years i think i have it beat. This tristar did not come from corwin arms. I traded a friend who won it at a duck unlimited or some turkey dinner party. The blueing is fantastic. Deep and even but thats the only positive

Not all turk guns are ####
 
I have a Ricol 12G shorty shotgun, I am pretty sure it is Turkish. It works quite well. I have easily put hundreds of 2 3/4" shells through it without a hiccup. It has a decent finish and functions well. The only beef I had with it when I got it was that the triggers were rough and the ejectors were set to launch the spent shells to the moon. I disassembled mine and polished the interior mechanisms as it was really rough and had a lot of flash on the parts. I trimmed the ejector springs so that the send the spent shells out with authority but not as a secondary projectile and it is a really nice shooter now. If this was my first shotgun, I might not have been too keen on this particular brand so I can see why Turkish guns have a bit of a bad rap but if you are mechanically inclined it they aren't too bad.
 
I picked up a warrior lever action off the EE last week, I like the look, crisp trigger, semi-smooth action.
The problems didn't show until I opened it up to clean. Parts of the internals were "finished" on a belt sander. Now, it functions, it's not meant to be a pretty sporting shotgun, but the standards of machining are questionable. I'd love to hear any feedback from folks who have opened up one of the break actions.
 
The Armsan A612 I purchased was incredibly well made. The internals were no better and no worse then my Brownings and Franchi semi's. No machine marks anywhere. A very well made gun
 
I have two, Derya TM22 and Winchester SXP. Certainly not the most high end guns but they work well. Deryas warrenty is handed by O'Dell in Canada and they are amazing. They sent me a gen 3 bolt stop and a few magazine followers for free just because I asked.
 
The Armsan A612 I purchased was incredibly well made. The internals were no better and no worse then my Brownings and Franchi semi's. No machine marks anywhere. A very well made gun

Armsan makes some of the least bad Turkish shotguns. There’s a reason they cost more and are the OEM for several name brands.
 
I have two, Derya TM22 and Winchester SXP. Certainly not the most high end guns but they work well. Deryas warrenty is handed by O'Dell in Canada and they are amazing. They sent me a gen 3 bolt stop and a few magazine followers for free just because I asked.
Did you realize this thread is from 2018?

Regardless, that's good to know. It seems like Canadian warranty support is in short supply these days.
 
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