turkish semi auto shotguns

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Hi
This is my first post. I've been lurking here for awhile and am grateful for all the good info
I've been out of hunting for 20 years, just getting back into it now

I'm very interested in these new Turkish semi auto shotguns

Seems that their are a few that are very similar if not identical?

I've read of Uzkon, Alpha Arms, Akdal, Bora Arms, Fedarm, Natmil, Torun M-12, and Derya MK10.

Any reason to pick one over the other?

Thank you in advance
 
I had a Derya which only lasted 1 hunting season, a result of shooting 3 inch magnum loads. It was too much for the alluminum reciever which wasn't capable of withstanding the ramming of the bolt.
 
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I've heard decent feedback on the canuck brand. Turkish gun brought in by O'Dell Engineering. Distributer and repair shop in Ontario. They drop in to one of the local stores I deal with from time to time to see if he needs anything. 3" receiver, walnut or camo stock, 2 year warranty, 5 chokes and a hard case all for $450. No first hand experience but your not out much if its not to your liking and you should be able to go through plenty of rounds within the 2 year warranty period to test it thoroughly.
 
Dont buy one unless you are ready to tinker or are ready to be happy with something meh.

And the guy who said the magnum shells beat his to death...i can see that. I only put 20 3in magnum slugs and buck through mine and it showed when I cleaned it after. Receiver looked pretty rough where the bolt slams into it. Haha the shells ejected out like 30 feet.

Edit, mines a hatsan mpa ts.
 
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People that know me on this form, know that I am not a fan of Turkish made firearms for personal reasons but that is not to say that I have anything against someone else buying them. Turkey have been making firearms for a long time and in terms of production they are only second to the US, I believe. I conceded that their firearms industry have decent quality control overall. Their standard is good enough for companies such as Weatherby and Churchill to have all of their shotguns made over there. Even companies such as Winchester and Mossberg have their low end shotguns made there to stay economically competitive. If price is the determining factor, take a look at the lower end American shotguns. Price wise they are pretty close to their Turkish counter parts, same fit and finish in terms of over all quality and chances are they are made in turkey also. Keep in mind that these Turkish guns are NOT designed to be run hard as any competitive shooter, hunter, military and LEO will tell you but to shoot a few rounds in the bush, they are perfectly OK. The biggest advantage of an American branded Turkish gun is the customer support and warranty.
 
I've had a couple of the Turkish semi autos and the ones I had (derya mk 10 and 1919 match) Both of them stated not to run 3inch loads in them only 2-3/4.
Running 3 inch magnum loads would most certainly ruin the guns I would think
 
One of the sporting clay shoot I attend, now and then offers one of these Turkish imports for a prize. Most of them end up on gunnutz for sale few days later. Some times they are passed over for a nice shooting jacket. They most times are very disappointing guns. High volume shooters have no use for them .
 
I've found that the biggest thing when it comes to the Turkish shotguns is to pick a reputable dealer that will stand behind their customers. They're budget guns that for the most part function well, but there will be some issues. Like others have said, parts aren't readily available from places like brownells or cabelas like they are for the Mossberg or Remington guns, so the dealer needs to have spares or parts for repairs and warranty work.

In terms of brands, I've heard that there's basically only a few real factories, but they'll print whatever brand logo you want on it, so many of the different brands were probably made in the same place by the same people.

Most stocks seem to fit across the brands for similar styles. Buttstocks seem to be pretty well universal for all Turkish guns, forestocks would probably vary a bit more.

Personally I've had very good luck with any of the shotguns Martin has brought in at Corwin Arms, I've used several hatsan without issue, and a couple of other odds and ends as well. My 5 stand gun right now is one of the original Warrior semis from corwin. Nothing special about it, but it fits me well and I tend to hit more clays, so until it wears out or I get something that works better for me, i'll probably stick with it.

For me it comes down to intended use. As an inexpensive shotgun that I don't mind bumping through the woods hunting, getting wet shooting at the odd duck and a few rounds of clays a year, it fits that use perfectly. I don't expect it to last hundreds of thousands of rounds like a high end skeet or trap gun, but I also don't shoot enough rounds in a year for it to really matter.
 
Have an ATA Venza that I have over 12,000 rnds through shooting trap only. Bought the gun in the summer of 2017 and not an issue as of yet and I shoot 1250fps handicap loads only. Have several of the Corwin shotguns in various flavours in 12 and 20 for hunting and not an issue so far from slugs to birdshot. The only "brand name" shotgun I still own is my dedicated 870 for turkey.

I shoot them, clean when needed, and don't worry to much about branding and the money saved on guns is spent on ammo. Are they a Kolar no, but when I saw a Kolar shooter walk off the line last week with a stock in two pieces, they all have their failures whether a few hundred or a more than few thousand dollars is spent
 
Depends on the hunting. For truck hunting and ground sluicing grouse or bunnies, a mag fed AR style semi auto Turk SG would work fine.

For waterfowl? No thanks, I'll use my Beretta A300.

But they are fun guns and younger shooters love them for their fun appeal. We need more young shooters in the sport.
 
MY Turkish Semi looks great, feels great but fails to show up to the party with light strikes in 1 in approx 5-10 rounds. I have been unable to correct this issue. Next time I will buy from a tried true tested manufacturer like the wise ones said in the first place. Its a fine gun to play around with but I can't count on it for hunting.
 
I shot an Armsan 612 for a couple seasons of sporting clays and hunting. It worked very well, I only sold it to get a beretta A400 lh. I had no failures or trouble with it, I just wanted a new gun.
 
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tman74 said:
Who in their right mind buys a mag fed shotgun for hunting?
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Can you elaborate on this? I'm seriously considering a Derya MK12 to use for occasional plinking and hunting. I'm relatively new to shooting, don't intend to compete, and can't justify spending $1000 on a shotgun just for plinking, I hope to use it for pretty much everything from the once/twice a month range visit to 1x/year turkey hunt, 1x/year deer hunt, etc. Its a lot of fun, and so long as its *effective* I'm in! I've heard the prevailing wisdom about mag fed SGs being unreliable, but I also hear that's been largely remedied in the MK12

Any insight is appreciated, cheers.
 
I got tired of having a couple of grand wrapped up in a Benelli that just got shot a couple of times per year for goose and duck hunting and purchased a Weatherby Sa-08. I spent $550 on the synthetic Wby and don't care if it gets beat up in a hunting blind. So far I've only got about 400 rounds through it but it's worked flawlessly. I wouldn't use it as a high volume target gun because I don't think it would stand up to the round count and I have better guns for that purpose but no regrets buying this one.
 
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