turkish semi auto shotguns

[dand883]

Can you elaborate on this? I'm seriously considering a Derya MK12 to use for occasional plinking and hunting. I'm relatively new to shooting, don't intend to compete, and can't justify spending $1000 on a shotgun just for plinking, I hope to use it for pretty much everything from the once/twice a month range visit to 1x/year turkey hunt, 1x/year deer hunt, etc. Its a lot of fun, and so long as its *effective* I'm in! I've heard the prevailing wisdom about mag fed SGs being unreliable, but I also hear that's been largely remedied in the MK12

Any insight is appreciated, cheers.

For deer/turkey, rabbits, etc, the mag fed shotgun, where you're aiming at a more stationary target, would work fine. They tend to be shorter barreled, more rifle sighted than shotgun, shorter barrel/sight radius and pistol gripped.

If you're looking for ducks, geese, upland birds and trying to hit them while they are flying those mag fed type of shotguns aren't ideal for that type of hunting. You'd want one of the longer barrel, more traditional style stock, bead on the end, typical hunting type of shotgun.

 

[Evanguy]

I have a derya mk10 with about 2000 rounds though it. The only rounds it didnt like were wichester LIGHT target loads. But everything else works flawlessly in it. But you are able to limp wirst the shotgun ( limp shoulder?) pull it tight and it works awesome.

 

[M12shooter]

Bought my young son a Weatherby SA-08 20. He's put hundreds of rounds through it without a hiccup. Further, I shot many rounds of skeet with it as well..no issues. Points/swings well for a light shotgun. Rubber recoil pad soft and sticky... tends to catch on clothing though. Fit and finish OK...hate the plastic trigger guard but that is common and most modern shotguns. I like old Winchesters though...

 

[the spank]

Can you elaborate on this? I'm seriously considering a Derya MK12 to use for occasional plinking and hunting. I'm relatively new to shooting, don't intend to compete, and can't justify spending $1000 on a shotgun just for plinking, I hope to use it for pretty much everything from the once/twice a month range visit to 1x/year turkey hunt, 1x/year deer hunt, etc. Its a lot of fun, and so long as its *effective* I'm in! I've heard the prevailing wisdom about mag fed SGs being unreliable, but I also hear that's been largely remedied in the MK12

Any insight is appreciated, cheers.

By design they are not made as a wingshooting or instinctive style shooting gun. They are a shotgun built around a tactical rifle platform. That means by design they are intended to be shot rifle style, meaning primarily at stationary targets with your gun premounted to your shoulder as you acquire your target and sights to AIM at your intended target. Traditional styled shotguns are designed to be carried low and thrown quickly to the shoulder while primarily pointing at or ahead of a flushing or cross flying target. Stocks are of dimensions that allow for the gun to come to shoulder and cheek together in unison while keeping your focus on a moving target instead of your focus aligning a set of sights. They are also designed with lengths and balances which keeps weight between the hands and the gun swinging smoothly so you can follow through on the shot. Shorter mag fed tactical platforms are not. They are designed with stationary shots in my mind and are not balanced or made for fast acquisition of fast moving targets. They are designed soley with defense in mind. Plain and simple. Yes guys use them for hunting and plinking but that is not their true intended design. Range games designed with defense or stationary targets in mind they are well suited too. Hunting scenario range games, ie: trap/skeet/sporting clays they are not.

 

[grumpyguy]

I had a Derya which only lasted 1 hunting season, a result of shooting 3 inch magnum loads. It was too much for the alluminum reciever which wasn't capable of withstanding the ramming of the bolt.

Just curious but what model was it? MK12?

 

[Paatz]

I picked up a Winchester SPX Defender for really cheap when WS closed.
Only put a few rounds through it so far but I bought it for a beater gun anyways.
Time will tell I suppose.
The SPX series might be something to look at although there aren't any after-market parts that fit.

 

[willy1]

Bought my young son a Weatherby SA-08 20. He's put hundreds of rounds through it without a hiccup. Further, I shot many rounds of skeet with it as well..no issues. Points/swings well for a light shotgun. Rubber recoil pad soft and sticky... tends to catch on clothing though. Fit and finish OK...hate the plastic trigger guard but that is common and most modern shotguns. I like old Winchesters though...

X2 on the SA-08. My 12 gauge has been a total workhorse and I rarely clean it.

 

[Westward1]

X2 on the SA-08. My 12 gauge has been a total workhorse and I rarely clean it.

A friend runs an SA-08 and it has never malfunctioned in the blind or shooting clays.