Turning barrels on a lathe

I'v adopt the following method for working barrels. The copper/malleable metal ring prevents marring and can lamp on to a tapered barrel. With a spyder on the other end of the headstock, I can dial in on the bore with indicator rods. Also, with this method i can do muzzle work with the barrel on the action - as long as the barrel is over 20"

Working with a lathe that has a short headstock has big advantages for rifle work.
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center it up as best u can supporting it as much as possible. just use a deburring tool to crown it as best as u can, turning it slowly. then clean it up with a piece of fine emery cloth. works great cause your tool is not fixed, so it will follow the original shape, and be as good as original. u should be able to get it so close that nobody will ever notice. sounds like cheating, i know, but i've done it many times, will turn out good. only works on shotgun barrels though, rifles are too thick, and there is too much material to remove.
 
Working with a lathe that has a short headstock has big advantages for rifle work.
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Indeed, but sometimes you have to make do with what you have. :)

My lathe isn't huge, but its not a hobby lathe. I have a 48" bed lathe and the headstock spindle is about 15" long + 4" for the chuck + the spider - so there is your 20". If i need to work anything smaller it can always be done between centers. Its good to know a few different ways to skin a cat.
 
There isnt much you could have done with it with what you said.

only option would have been a Steady rest. and that isn't a sure bet all the time. (also without the right tool makes a mess of the barrel finish) couldn't have used a Center on it as you couldn't have done the crowning job. so 12" out with some chatter isn't to bad. can also use a file and sandpaper for a finish if you want. shotgun barrels are a bit of a pain as they are so thin, they create a resonance in the steel which makes really bad chatter.
 
You guys with your 3 and 3.875 inch bore headstock machines need to stop gloating! :D

Come on now. Machines with that size of through bore on the headstock are the sort of machines found only in super heavy duty shops. It's the sort of thing I'd expect on a lathe with a 6 or more foot long bed.

My 10 x 36 inch lathe has about a 1.5 inch headstock bore. And that's pretty much typical of that size from what I've seen. It also means that the headstock center is a MT5 which is about as big as you'll find for an MT headstock.
 
Here are some alternatives use a steady rest, if your limited to a chuck use a 4 jaw and true but face jaws with a mallable material sucg as lead so you have contact along a tapered barrel, just an old fartall the best Art
 
between centers would have been nice, but you cant "crown" the shotgun barrel when the live center is in the way... unless theres a trick i dont know about?

Yeah. A cutaway solid center. You take a solid center and grind away a portion of the side of the tip, so you can reach the bore with a long(ish) tool. The countersink for the center to ride on must extend a wee bit deeper than the facing of the end will, to provide support while the end is faced.

A cat head and a steady rest together is a better bet for set-up accuracy, but is fiddly. But between a cat head and a four jaw chuck, you could set up each bore of a double, at least for internal work.

Another idea (not tried this one, but I think it would work...) is to build an expanding plug that would be inserted into the barrel and allow you to turn with a center support. The practicality of that would depend on the contents of your scrap box, as well as whether you were doing this for fun or for pay (Time spent making tools..).

Cheers
Trev
 
I made this for when I re-chambered my Parker Hale. The OD of the barrel wasn't concentric to the chamber. Dialed the holder true to the tail stock (windage & elevation, so to speak), then dialed in the chamber bore to the tail stock. Wish I would've made it with a bigger hole, though. Not big enough for a break open action barrel. There is a set screw in the steady rest bearing groove to stop the unit from turning.

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Makes me wonder how I have been able to get by with my Myford super7 with a 5/8" hole in the headstock. Only shortcoming so far is that I am limited to about 30" for chambering barrels.

cheers mooncoon
 
wow lots of great info guys. makes me realize that although i got the job done, it wasnt done properly/well. I guess its still better than the hacksaw and file method.
 
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