TV archery hunts, mostly canned?

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This time of year, WILD TV has a never-ending array of deer archery hunts on their programming schedule.

Now I understand that the hunters participating on these hunts spend countless hours on the stand and only their successful - properly taped- kills make it on the show. Still, I just find it amusing that their popular personalities get SO many chances at trophy bucks. It seems that their biggest problem, most of the times, is to draw the bow, without one of the countless does in the same frame spotting them!

On a number of occasions the hosts advertise the services of so-an-so Outfitters. I assume that these folks have lease agreements with large landowners that give them exclusive rights to their properties. Can they call themselves an outfitter when all they do is set you up 50 yards from the feeder, ring the dinner bell and drive off on their expensive trucks?

Not trying to raise a stink, just want some info from people in-the-know.

Other than the infamous Texas hunts, where the feeders can be seen in some of the shots, what percentage of these hunts would you guess take place on high-fence farms?
 
Lots of these farms!! See them in action first hand.

Remember it is all about the dollar. Who's gonna watch a show of someone sitting in a stand day after day and see nothing, which is a more realistic situation. Or who is gonna come to your camp when they see countless trophy animals on the tube.

Remember the golden rule, "He who has the gold, makes the rules"
 
Some hunts are for sure. You have to remember that baiting deer is legal in a number of states and the use of electronic feeders is also legal. In some areas having set aside crops for game animals as an attractant is also legal. Neither are legal here in Alberta so it looks strange to see. We should also take into account that in some states the season is measured in days, and the hunting pressure is extreme. In one state that I was in, the world essentially stops for the 7 days of general season.

Not condoning some of the activities...we just have to recognize that some rules are different. I am against game farms and you can usually tell when three record book bucks come walking down the same trail in 30 mins! I personally prefer how we do it in Alberta but we are blessed with space, plentiful game animals and a heck of a lot of options...
 
Morpheus32 said:
Some hunts are for sure. You have to remember that baiting deer is legal in a number of states and the use of electronic feeders is also legal. In some areas having set aside crops for game animals as an attractant is also legal. Neither are legal here in Alberta so it looks strange to see. ...
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Understood, thanks for the info. I have no issue with baiting, feeders or food plots -all of which are legal in Ontario- to attract free-roaming deer. The same practices however on fenced-in deer seem over the top.
 
yorgi said:
Understood, thanks for the info. I have no issue with baiting, feeders or food plots -all of which are legal in Ontario- to attract free-roaming deer. The same practices however on fenced-in deer seem over the top.
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Some people sell their hunting soul to make money....that is an unfortunate fact.
 
some of those tv shows have the money to book hunts with good outfitters. the outfitters are paid to have their stuff together and have all the home work done. some are good hunter buts most are just crap, get them out of a tree and on the ground chasing mule deer or elk and they will most likely look like a joke.

i quided a tv bowhunter for moose in the yukon a few years ago and it was the hardest bow hunt i have ever guided. it was twice the work getting the hunter and camera man around the mountains.

BrotherRockeye, your thinking of SCI for the estate catigory in their record books. henry kelsey is 100% fair chase just like B&C or P&Y. henry kelsey is Saskatchewans big game record book.
 
Google some of the outfitters from the show.

I remember one website where they had a price list that increased as the size of antlers went way up.:rolleyes:

I guess camera time is expensive so they need results fast.
 
Free ranging is a relative term. When attractants of all types and minerals are offered it becomes a competition between adjacent landowners as to who has the best smorgasboard on offer. The record books might just as well be torn up as selective breeding and 'food plots' seem to be the norm on the TV shows.
Add in QDM and one is left to wonder, is it hunting as the average joe from rural Canada knows it?
In certain shows it looks a lot like shooting a cow in your feedlot as it sways its way to the trough of genetically modified feed laced with antibiotics.
Just another example of the polluting effect money has on something that is righteous and pure to most of us but has been cheapened and rendered tawdry and comercialized.
Is there a high fence? In some cases. In the cases where there isn't it is just as bad if not worse. Its all about getting the footage and ethics be damned.
Don't even get me started on the high fives and the 're-enactments'.
 
Schlephunter said:
Free ranging is a relative term. When attractants of all types and minerals are offered it becomes a competition between adjacent landowners as to who has the best smorgasboard on offer. The record books might just as well be torn up as selective breeding and 'food plots' seem to be the norm on the TV shows.
Add in QDM and one is left to wonder, is it hunting as the average joe from rural Canada knows it?
In certain shows it looks a lot like shooting a cow in your feedlot as it sways its way to the trough of genetically modified feed laced with antibiotics.
Just another example of the polluting effect money has on something that is righteous and pure to most of us but has been cheapened and rendered tawdry and comercialized.
Is there a high fence? In some cases. In the cases where there isn't it is just as bad if not worse. Its all about getting the footage and ethics be damned.
Don't even get me started on the high fives and the 're-enactments'.
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Obviously people are buying it or they wouldn't be advertising it. While not for me, I'd say these low fence QDM operations are becoming the norm south of the border, regardless of television. Television imitates life...life doesn't imitate television.

As to the OP......not so much high fence I don't think but a lot of low fence QDM operations.

We should have coffee one day schlep....I see we are from the same town.
 
The hunting shows are entertainment, no more.

A few of them offer interesting hunts, some are amusing,too.

Most of them suck, but since it's $1.50 per month for Wild TV, I subscribe anyway, to be interested by the few shows (mostly in BC) and amused by the other shows. Every now and then some are fun, even if what they are doing is lame.

I still wonder how anyone can endorse King Optics fluted scopes. Hilarious...:p
 
Schlephunter said:
Free ranging is a relative term. When attractants of all types and minerals are offered it becomes a competition between adjacent landowners as to who has the best smorgasboard on offer. The record books might just as well be torn up as selective breeding and 'food plots' seem to be the norm on the TV shows.
Add in QDM and one is left to wonder, is it hunting as the average joe from rural Canada knows it?
In certain shows it looks a lot like shooting a cow in your feedlot as it sways its way to the trough of genetically modified feed laced with antibiotics.
Just another example of the polluting effect money has on something that is righteous and pure to most of us but has been cheapened and rendered tawdry and comercialized.
Is there a high fence? In some cases. In the cases where there isn't it is just as bad if not worse. Its all about getting the footage and ethics be damned.
Don't even get me started on the high fives and the 're-enactments'.
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Agreed.

Certainly is a far cry from fair chase publicly owned critters here.

IMHO - why we need to be ever vigilant to protect what we have here.

Where can a guy buy that new deer call that sound like the feeder's gate opening anyway....
 
norskie said:
Agreed.

Certainly is a far cry from fair chase publicly owned critters here.

IMHO - why we need to be ever vigilant to protect what we have here.

Where can a guy buy that new deer call that sound like the feeder's gate opening anyway....
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Not disagreeing norski but you have your head in the sand if you don't think low fence QDM exists in Alberta and it's very prevelant in provinces like Ontario.
 
sheephunter said:
Not disagreeing norski but you have your head in the sand if you don't think low fence QDM exists in Alberta and it's very prevelant in provinces like Ontario.
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Please explain the low fence QDM system in Alberta Sheephunter.

I was not speaking for Ontario, and if there was a confusion in that regard I apologize.
 
norskie said:
Please explain the low fence QDM system in Alberta Sheephunter.

I was not speaking for Ontario, and if there was a confusion in that regard I apologize.
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There are lots of people right now in Alberta planting crops to maximize deer numbers and antler growth on their property. ie...low fence QDM.
 
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