twist rates offered from savage

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I want to buy a Savage 12FV in .223 and on Savage's website they only offer one twist rate for that model and caliber.... 1 in 9".
http://savagearms.com/12fv.htm
Are they just not mentioning other twist rates? I primarily want the caliber for Pdogs and possibly 'yotes

Cabellas is offering bulk .223 ammo in 52gr HP for $234/500 rnds.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/t...ext=bulk+ammunition&Ntx=matchall&N=4887&Nty=1

Am I in the ball park? I'd hate to buy the gun only to find that light varmint ammo keyholes or frags as it leaves the barrel.
(Still cornfused on this whole twist rate formula. I know fast twist rates aren't good for lighter bullets. But slow rates are't great on heavier bullets either? :confused:)
Please steer me in the right direction
 
1 in 7 is fast for 80gr
1 in 12 is slow for 45 gr
1 in 9 is in the middle so don't worry about it, the 52's will be fine and the cheepo bulk winchester 45's seem to shoot extremely well through any 223 no matter the twist. The 1 in 9 stabilizes the 75gr AMax as well. Win win twist for a factory rifle.

Cheers
 
1 in 9 should shoot 52's plenty good enough. Maybe not good enough to win matches where .1" matters, but for gophers you should be able to find or make a 52 grain load that'll hit a gopher out to 300 yards. The accuracy bottleneck will likely be the quality of the bulk ammo, not the gun. My 1 in 8" tikka shoots 52 grainers fantastically well.

I wouldn't worry about it
 
Hi Rick. Don't worry about the 1 in 9. I have a Savage BTVS in 223 and it shoots pretty much everything up to 69 gr bullets. 75 gr a-maxs were not as accurate from my rifle (at 300 meters). Check out the BTVS at P&D enterprises they have them for $950.00...yes it's a bit more than a FV but if the thumbhole stock fits your hand you may want to spend the extra $$.
 
I may have been responsible for Savage's introduction of the 1:9. I pointed out to them that there were heavier bullets coming onto the market and none of the factory rifles of the time would handle them.

I wanted a 1:8 but they balked. They sent me the first prototype to test. It was 1:9. I suggested a number of changes and then they sent me 20 pre-production prototypes to circulate for feedback. These were in 1:9. I touched the chamber with a Wylde chamber reamer to open the throat a bit.

The feed back was that most of these rifles would shoot the Sierra 80 if loaded full power. Everyone who got one paid foir it, happily.

If you load, I suggest the Sierra 69 or Hornday 68 or 75 A-max. The wind drift will be much less than the lighter bullets.

While I don't routinly load light bullets, we did make a batch of 45 gr ammo for a contract for ammo that would blow up on contact with interior walls.

The contract also required a small muzzle flash, so I tested it with a 9" barrel AR-15 mounted with a 20X target scope. It grouped 10 shots under 2" at 200 yards. I was shocked. It was the best AR-15 I had ever shot. Twist was 1:7 Go figure.
 
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