**TYPE 81 7.62x39 Service Rifle** ~IN STOCK -NOW AVAILABLE!!!

To those who have theirs already, how do these compare to a VZ58 or CZ 858? For build quality, reliability and accuracy ?

I posted this already but...

858 is milled, 81 is stamped.
858 has much better aftermarket support, 81 just landed less than 2 or 3 months ago, so parts are lacking
858 is more expensive, 81 and its mags are slightly cheaper
They are both about the same in terms of accuracy.
Reliability I have not had a single failure in either one.
Type 81 is a bit more front heavy than the 858.
The type 81's folding stock has a massive lead over the 858's wire stock (if folders is what you like)
The Type 81 scratches that AK itch. The 858 less so.
Big thing for me aswell is that a non-restricted Type 81 looks much less goofy than a long barreled 858.

Verdict: Get Both, they are solid well built rifles.
 
just ordered a fixed stock. figured as I am not the biggest Chinese gun fan but these are as close to an AK as we will get and seeing how most people are enjoying them so for. thought I would keep an opened mind and try it out.

for the people that have had them for a bit is there anything to keep an eye out for?.
 
Skimmed through the thread but I didn’t see a ETA on delivery of rifles. Is there a estimated date of arrival. I would like to order but I don’t want a 1000$ tied up for an extended period of time. Thanks for any help on this subject
 
Skimmed through the thread but I didn’t see a ETA on delivery of rifles. Is there a estimated date of arrival. I would like to order but I don’t want a 1000$ tied up for an extended period of time. Thanks for any help on this subject

Well I had a nearly 2 year wait for mine and it sucked big time but it did come. I suspect as the rifles expected are already built that if you order now your wait will be much much shorter. You probably would only have to wait for export permits (procedure probably already underway) and shipping to Canada.

I would feel much more confident ordering now. Go for it if you want one.
 
For you big guys with both - is the fixed stock or the folder nicer to shoot.

I like wood, but the few closeups I've seen show a mediocre fit of buttstock to receiver. I could get over that if the ergos are nicer.

I already figure that LOP is going to be short for me
 
TI, any chance you can get the Chinese to make 5/10 and 5/20 rounders (tanker) mags for the Type 81? I know they exist from pics sent to me by a friend in the Chinese army.

Just as a reference vs. 30 rounders...

AK47-Mag-Hungarian-Tanker-with-Chinese.jpg
 
just ordered a fixed stock. figured as I am not the biggest Chinese gun fan but these are as close to an AK as we will get and seeing how most people are enjoying them so for. thought I would keep an opened mind and try it out.

for the people that have had them for a bit is there anything to keep an eye out for?.

Stay away... The constant repetitive "ping" of bullets striking steel plates at 300m gets annoying... :p

In reality though the only thing that's concerned me is how hard and high it throws the spent cases.
 
TI, any chance you can get the Chinese to make 5/10 and 5/20 rounders (tanker) mags for the Type 81? I know they exist from pics sent to me by a friend in the Chinese army.

Just as a reference vs. 30 rounders...

AK47-Mag-Hungarian-Tanker-with-Chinese.jpg

Yes Please!!!!! These will be much handier for shooting off of a rest and for hunting!!!
 
For you big guys with both - is the fixed stock or the folder nicer to shoot.

I like wood, but the few closeups I've seen show a mediocre fit of buttstock to receiver. I could get over that if the ergos are nicer.

I already figure that LOP is going to be short for me

I think the ergos are nicer on the folder. I like the flat comb of the folder better.
 
I would definitely give the T81 better ergos over the vz58 any day of the week.

But I think the fixed has bettet ergs over the folder

The T81 is fast to shoulder and when you do shoulder it, it lines up perfect to my eye
 
Can you have them add spare safeties please? Even if it costs more, many of us want a spare to do the 90 degree mod.

The paperwork is already in for the year unfortunately. However a 90 degree conversion would make good third party accessory, easy to make as well
 
I think the ergos are nicer on the folder. I like the flat comb of the folder better.

I would definitely give the T81 better ergos over the vz58 any day of the week.

But I think the fixed has bettet ergs over the folder

The T81 is fast to shoulder and when you do shoulder it, it lines up perfect to my eye


So in typical CGN fashion the answer is "buy one of each!" lol

Thanks gents
 
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