**TYPE 81 7.62X39 SERVICE RIFLE** ~Now on the way~ -Last chance!

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So I fully expect to be band for this, but just know... insider information . One, the rifles are shipped in Polytech foam boxes, two... with slings and oilers. Basically reason for the shipping delay is they are physically stripping ever order and revising to pack extras, on top of that you’ve seen the employee folder, the bin situation is a lie and to buy time to price Gauge you for things that were originally included in the box from Polytech. Also Ti paid a total of $199 a unit on this shipment. Believe me or not this is legit information and should help you make sense of the horrible work ethics of this company. Look into it but, first screen shot this because I bet it’s removed and thats the proof you need.

Second to this. There is no way a Chinese state running arsenal factory would pack rifle by just strapping it to the card board box. TI probably think this is the easiest way to put the extra mags in the original box without buying new one or cutting the foam to fit the extra mags.
 
Hey guys: long time lurker, first post. I have a theory. Nothing to back this up, aside from logic. I suspect that the folders were actually NOT shipped on the container from China (or at least not in serious quantity), and TI doesn't want to admit that. Why else would they ship only pre-ordered fixed stocks AND ship new orders of fixed stocks before people who have pre-ordered folders receive theirs? It makes no sense whatsoever, unless you buy the "that's how the shipping pallets were arranged" excuse, which is up there with "the dog ate my homework." This all sounds like a strategy to buy time. I'll bet they ship out most of the fixed stocks, and then take an extended break for a month or so from shipping while the folders come in. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I've not been impressed at all with their efficiency or honesty through this process.

long time lurker lol,, join date nov 17
 
Just to troll a little .

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long time lurker lol,, join date nov 17

You can read threads on a specific topic without being a member. And I've been following the T81 saga since I pre-ordered since this was the only place to get information. Up till now, have never really had a reason to comment. But the last few weeks have been a little mind-boggling.
 
You can read threads on a specific topic without being a member. And I've been following the T81 saga since I pre-ordered since this was the only place to get information. Up till now, have never really had a reason to comment. But the last few weeks have been a little mind-boggling.

a returned banned member would say the exact same thing to convince people he isn't a returned banned member.

Youza.
 
My understanding is the capitalism was built on the free market mechanism and the profit heavily relays on long term relationship with customers. While over expected profit margin is not sustainable, it reduces the size of customers, further the quantity of the products that can be ordered from supplier, amd further the negotiation power with the Chinese manufacturer. In this case, the Chinese factory could start the production much earlier rather than wait to combine Canadian order with the orders from other buyers.

Basically I believe $199 per unit was about right. One of the consideration behind the design of t81 was the mass production at low cost which should be very important during war time. This was what Russian and Chinese used to believe.

I dont believe nowadays the factory sells T81 only for $199, especially it is the same quality of the military order. The price in 90s for PLA itself purchase was 200$ CAD, reasonable estimate would be double by now and a bit of higher for consumer market. China may gave other third world country T81 at lower price but there was subsidies involved for sure.
 
Just received a shipping notice for a fixed I ordered a week ago! But not for the folder I ordered in March! Was thinking to save shipping they would send all a customers orders at same time.
 
a returned banned member would say the exact same thing to convince people he isn't a returned banned member.à

Youza.

We can go back and forth and be all personal about it, which isn't really constructive. I've never been a member here, not that that would convince you. All I did was put forward the theory I had. We'll know soon whether that's the case or not. As I said, I would be thrilled to be wrong in this case.
 
We can go back and forth and be all personal about it, which isn't really constructive. I've never been a member here, not that that would convince you. All I did was put forward the theory I had. We'll know soon whether that's the case or not. As I said, I would be thrilled to be wrong in this case.

your pseudo theory is based on litterally nothing. TI explained the fixed were going out first because of how the container was packed.

Unless you want to claim TI told a bold face lie, for which you better have proof of, maybe you should stop inventing theories out of thin air.

Youza.
 
your pseudo theory is based on litterally nothing. TI explained the fixed were going out first because of how the container was packed.

Unless you want to claim TI told a bold face lie, for which you better have proof of, maybe you should stop inventing theories out of thin air.

Youza.

where is your HARD EVIDENCE it's not a lie lol
 
ExpatMike is Zab confirmed...

Got my shipping notice for my fixed! ETA Nov. 22, this'll be a hard wait. Hope everyone gets their notices soon, I was real salty before I got mine

Sigh...A simple grammar comparison would suggest that's not anywhere close to the truth. If you want to be personal, go for it. I'm not going there. All I did was put forward a theory (which I specified I have no proof for aside from logical deduction) and added that I hope my theory is wrong. The fact that TI has made public so little information to their buyers has not helped matters.
 
To the people freaking out that their rifle(s) haven't shipped yet. Just go somewhere else, do you think shipping these rifles is easy? That it could be all shipped in a few days or that you could do it in a few days tops and TI is purposefully withholding the rifles is because of incompetence or they don't have the rifles?

Is plain dumb and shows you don't understand how a business operates especially in a industry as regulated as the firearms industry. TI already has our deposits, they have already been paid, the longer it takes to ship all those rifles the less money they will make. Why would they hold the rifles back and make less money? Simple they aren't the bottleneck stopping your rifles from getting to your household, there are overhead costs like paying employees(or a third party) to sort, pack, verify and ship/load which costs them money everyday.

My guess it would be the CFO/RCMP only verifying a few PALs everyday creating a backlog of rifles ready and waiting to be shipped out but TI can't break the law and ship rifles to people who have invalid/expired PALs and have to wait for confirmation.

OR

Canada Post won't pickup more than a few rifles at a time due to space on the trucks or it being the busy season for shipping packages.


EDIT: Shipping containers only have 1 opening so if the folded where put in to the container first they can only be taken out of the container after everything in front of them have been taken out of the container. Which would explain why all of the orders only containing fixed orders are being shipped first because they have to get them shipped to get to the folders.
 
Sigh...A simple grammar comparison would suggest that's not anywhere close to the truth. If you want to be personal, go for it. I'm not going there. All I did was put forward a theory (which I specified I have no proof for aside from logical deduction) and added that I hope my theory is wrong. The fact that TI has made public so little information to their buyers has not helped matters.

You inventing things doesn't exactly help matters either.

Youza.
 
I dont believe nowadays the factory sells T81 only for $199, especially it is the same quality of the military order. The price in 90s for PLA itself purchase was 200$ CAD, reasonable estimate would be double by now and a bit of higher for consumer market. China may gave other third world country T81 at lower price but there was subsidies involved for sure.

I didn’t know about that. My assumption was based on my previous experience dealing with the stamped sheet of metal and rivets that now can be obersed from T81. But I never doubted that T81 was indeed a good gun.
 
You inventing things doesn't exactly help matters either.

Youza.

A theory...which I made pretty clear I had no proof for. It's a theory. I didn't say "I have insider info" or "a contact told me" etc. It's a theory. One I will be happy to have proven wrong if we all have rifles in the next few weeks.
 
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