**TYPE 81 7.62X39 SERVICE RIFLE** ~Now on the way~ -Last chance!

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Have been watching this thread for a while now. Just out of curiosity I want to ask is it normal for production firearm to sell higher on the secondary market than what it retailed for in Canada? I'm interested in the T81, but I'm still waiting on my PAL to come. So if I want to pick an used one up later down the road, should I be expecting to pay a significantly higher price for it?
 
qiu_lijie said:
Have been watching this thread for a while now. Just out of curiosity I want to ask is it normal for production firearm to sell higher on the secondary market than what it retailed for in Canada? I'm interested in the T81, but I'm still waiting on my PAL to come. So if I want to pick an used one up later down the road, should I be expecting to pay a significantly higher price for it?
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Hard to say.

If there are only in fact, 1000 coming, and no more in the forseeable future, then potentially, yes. But not if the 1000 don't sell out.

If the reports come back good, more chance of a higher price. If they are like shotguns, less.

Supply and demand. When supply ends, demand will set the price. Which needs to be balanced against performance, the warranty process if there are issues, parts availability, and how many gee-gaws are on the market (aftermarket support).

Rumor existed of more than 1000 being produced. What the availability of those others, if they exist, will play a part.

No simple answer to your question. Too many variables.
 
Sunchild2071 said:
Hard to say.

If there are only in fact, 1000 coming, and no more in the forseeable future, then potentially, yes. But not if the 1000 don't sell out.

If the reports come back good, more chance of a higher price. If they are like shotguns, less.

Supply and demand. When supply ends, demand will set the price. Which needs to be balanced against performance, the warranty process if there are issues, parts availability, and how many gee-gaws are on the market (aftermarket support).

Rumor existed of more than 1000 being produced. What the availability of those others, if they exist, will play a part.

No simple answer to your question. Too many variables.
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Thanks for the heads up. I guess I'm just asking is it common for a price increase to happen, but I guess it is hard to tell.
 
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I would give TI a call and see if you can buy one and they keep it untill you get your PAL, guaranteed to have one then
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I doubt it.I would think it would be, No Pal no sale, they could loose their license. Getting someone else to buy it for you when you don't have a pal is called a straw purchase also illegal.

Not trying to rain on your parade but even if a person was so inclined and it was total innocent intentions to do such a thing the last thing should be to post it where who knows could read it.
 
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I think what they were trying to say is the friend would buy it and hold onto it And when the license arrived the other person could take possession of it
Nothing illegal there ...
 
Fair enough, my point is why would you post it here where the law could read it. I'm doing someone a favor. They don't care if it a friend or not the law is the law case closed. You don't really want to be in a situation that someone is looking at you, that's all.
I'm sure intentions are innocent
 
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Ace22 said:
My initial plan was to run the cheapest rounds I could find (purchased in bulk) through it.

Sadly, after some short email exchanges with my local gun club - they told me anything that gets picked up by a magnet (bullet - not casing) was a no-go at the club. It took a pretty hefty search to find bulk NON-steel core (aka lead) rounds. It also increased the cost by about 40-50%. I'll have to save my cheap steel core for the bush. It was a big pain in the butt, and basically the whole benefit of being able to fire old cheap milsurp (Steel core) was lost.
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ya lol your range is straight balls wtf
 
Sinbad said:
I doubt it.I would think it would be, No Pal no sale, they could loose their license. Getting someone else to buy it for you when you don't have a pal is called a straw purchase also illegal.

Not trying to rain on your parade but even if a person was so inclined and it was total innocent intentions to do such a thing the last thing should be to post it where who knows could read it.
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It's only really a straw purchase of he hands over the rifle before he gets his PAL. There is no real law that prevents me from buying a firearm for a friend while he/she waits for his/her PAL. If they don't get one. I give them back the cash and keep the gun or sell it. It's a grey area, it's like holding a collection in trust. The widow has no PAL, you do. You hold them, you sell them and then give her the cash.
 
It's only really a straw purchase of he hands over the rifle before he gets his PAL
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Pretty sure that's what I said. I already regret posting anything. Hurry up T 81 and get here so I can be done with this thread
 
When I first submitted my into to get my pal there was a firearm in a store that I wanted (mg34) and they held it for me for three months until I got my pal in the mail.
It's possible that TI would do it for you just have to ask them
 
Sinbad said:
I doubt it.I would think it would be, No Pal no sale, they could loose their license. Getting someone else to buy it for you when you don't have a pal is called a straw purchase also illegal.

Not trying to rain on your parade but even if a person was so inclined and it was total innocent intentions to do such a thing the last thing should be to post it where who knows could read it.
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You can sell a gun to whomever you like. You just can't give possession to someone without a licence out of supervision.

Straw purchase is a US thing when speaking of intent only. Here the actual act of transferring physical possession is the cause of problems. Not the intent at time of purchase.
 
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