Type 81 ETA?

[#1bcshooter]

Those navy Lugers aren’t worth that much unless they come with the but stock. Just the pistol by itself is usually half the standard issue 4” barrel. But some people think their worth gold haha. I personally wouldn’t spend over $1000 on one unless it came with the hardware.

Ok thanks for the heads up. I build engines so I’m good with modifying and machining things. Looks like it’s doable just curious if anyone has attempted it before. The more I dig in to this rifle the more I’m stepping away haha. Just because of the lack of support, I love the rifle, just scared away at availability and future parts. Will see what happens as I’m hearing all kinds of gossip, some say no more type 81’s some say maybe a batch late 2019.

I don't know where you are getting your info from but a (restricted) true navy 6" luger is worth far more than a (prohibited) standard 4" luger .
Whether it has the board stock or not

 

[Murray 3-D]

I just wish they made reproduction models.... i could care less about the history of any particular luger I buy. I just want one to shoot, cus i think they are a gorgeous pistol and have a really fascinating mechanism.

 

[Lugerman1937]

I just wish they made reproduction models.... i could care less about the history of any particular luger I buy. I just want one to shoot, cus i think they are a gorgeous pistol and have a really fascinating mechanism.

Contact lugercollector.com. He’s got all kinds of Lugers. If your just after a navy shooter than I would buy a standard mismatched Luger and buy the barrel length your after, they just screw in and your done. Yes they are a masterpiece, the only reason we have 9mm rounds around today. It’s been said that the 9mm round would never have been invented if it weren’t for the Germans. They made some amazing firearms and are the grandfather to the modern assault rifles with their stg44. If you really want a Luger for shooting and not collecting I can track one down for you. I’ve picked up some for $500. Their really only worth anything if they fall in to a certain criteria, year, model, serial numbers, and matching mags. Mismatched shooters are affordable.

 

[Lugerman1937]

I don't know where you are getting your info from but a (restricted) true navy 6" luger is worth far more than a (prohibited) standard 4" luger .
Whether it has the board stock or not

I so pose it is if it falls in to a collector criteria. There are $10,000 4” and there are $10,000 navy Lugers out there. So much plays a factor in the value. If your talking about a gen 1 P04 of the early 1900 than yes it’s worth more. But than again far and few are complete units. At the end of the day their worth whatever your willing to pay for it, but that doesn’t set market value. And once you break a numbered part, that gun just dropped to $500 regardless what your initial investment was. That’s just how the Luger market is. There are thousand of these guns in North America in all versions, but sadly most are mismatched shooters that inexperienced buyers get suckered in to paying premium prices. I would never buy a Luger unless I were able to strip it down to check the parts. And I recommend all buyers request a thorough take down prior to purchase. These are neat pistols, but they really aren’t worth what some are asking. Just my 2 cents, for me it takes a lot to make a Luger jump in to a $1500-$2000 range and you can’t even shoot that gun as you’ll risk turning it in to a mismatched shooter haha. Either way guess it all depends on how bad you want one. Just like me researching these type 81’s with a fixed stock. There are websites out there selling factory un modded used, yes used type 81’s for $1800 dollars just because there are non around with a fixed stock. Do I have $1800 to drop on one? Yes, but I won’t ever participate in the world of capital greed. It’s just plain nonsense to pull these schemes. Sorry to say but $1800 plus taxes is just highway robbery for a rifle that really has no support.
Back on topic I think I may purchase a folding stock unit and build a stock for it. I don’t shoot in the winter months so I can add this project to my never ending list haha.
Thanks for all the info and help everyone, may take one of you up on your offer.

 

[Ironheart]

^^^^^10K for a luger? Ummmmmmm.....

 

[Lugerman1937]

^^^^^10K for a luger? Ummmmmmm.....

Haha Yuppers, in the late 1980’s there was a Luger sold for a million dollars. It was one of the original prototypes of 1907. I believe it was number 1 of 2 that survived. Pretty sure it recently was sold years back for under $400,000 dollars which just shows you how much they dropped in value. I’m sure there’s info on it out there if you search “million dollar Luger”. That one was a special USA test piece chambered in 45. But that just shows a guy how much the Luger line of pistols fell down, sad but it is what it is. You don’t wanna know how many have been melted down in to scrap during the firearm amnesty.

 

[Murray 3-D]

Contact lugercollector.com. He’s got all kinds of Lugers. If your just after a navy shooter than I would buy a standard mismatched Luger and buy the barrel length your after, they just screw in and your done. Yes they are a masterpiece, the only reason we have 9mm rounds around today. It’s been said that the 9mm round would never have been invented if it weren’t for the Germans. They made some amazing firearms and are the grandfather to the modern assault rifles with their stg44. If you really want a Luger for shooting and not collecting I can track one down for you. I’ve picked up some for $500. Their really only worth anything if they fall in to a certain criteria, year, model, serial numbers, and matching mags. Mismatched shooters are affordable.

Best bit of news I've heard in a long time, I'll certainly keep all of that in mind! I'm currently not financially set for a luger yet, but when the time comes I'll let u know.

 

[#1bcshooter]

Contact lugercollector.com. He’s got all kinds of Lugers. If your just after a navy shooter than I would buy a standard mismatched Luger and buy the barrel length your after, they just screw in and your done. Yes they are a masterpiece, the only reason we have 9mm rounds around today. It’s been said that the 9mm round would never have been invented if it weren’t for the Germans. They made some amazing firearms and are the grandfather to the modern assault rifles with their stg44. If you really want a Luger for shooting and not collecting I can track one down for you. I’ve picked up some for $500. Their really only worth anything if they fall in to a certain criteria, year, model, serial numbers, and matching mags. Mismatched shooters are affordable.

I met an old German years ago & he told me they didn't loose the war , they just came in second

 

[Lugerman1937]

I met an old German years ago & he told me they didn't loose the war , they just came in second

Haha! Did they lose the war? Everything that fueled the German war machine is currently used by countries that defeated Germany.
Kodak pictures followed Germany and provided video and pictures, Texaco fuels known as chevron supplied fuel right from the Chrysler building in New York, until the early 1940’s. Which is when Auschwitz was taken over and turned in to a massive synthetic fuel and rubber factory. We’ve all heard of Hugo Boss, he alone designed the military uniforms of Hitler and his inner circle. VW and Porsche were near bankruptcy so Hitler invested his own money and VW built the “people’s car” while Porsche designed and built tanks. I can go on and on with companies that profited from ww2 and are still around today with no repercussions, but that would turn in to a book of its own haha. Even Henry Ford Co purchased Jews from Germany and used slave labour to build vehicles. And of course there the notorious company called IBM. They were the ones who developed the electronic human counting/record machine that was used for tracking personal at concentration camps throughout Europe and at companies who had purchased camp personal for slave labour. Moral of this story is, everything Germany did we now support and purchase. Germany just signed a “joined defence” contract with 9 EU countries that basically states if Germany goes to war all these countries must join and follow command. The irony in this is, France and a majority of other countries that were once under Nazi command are now holding hands. The battles of WW2 were all leading up to this, this is what Hitler wanted as evident in his personal journal. Now there are only 2 super powers in the EU, Germany and Russia. Did they lose the war? Some might say yes, but on a political scale they won and achieved their political standings throughout the EU and have a global market of trade. Even Wernher von Braun got to fulfill his dream of space exploration funded by USA taxpayers and lives of troops. He was the man who designed the very successful V2 rockets. These were the rockets that bombed Britain and took out innocent civilians instead of military structures. “Operation paper clip” was launched to capture German scientists and bring them back to the USA to better our lives. Braun was welcomed with open arms and a limitless aerospace budget, he was the head of NASA and put the first man on the moon.

 

[870pumplover]

Two things,one is you can’t fit a fixed stock to a folder or visa versa because the receivers are different. Two there is on last shipment coming in sometime in 2019 but that’s it as far as what was allotted to TI. There were indeed made on the tail of a military pla contract, polytech won’t make them unless they are doing a huge military contract as there is no money to be made. There is pose to be part kits coming in on the last shipment but ya they are a limited time only gun

 

[Murray 3-D]

They totally lost the war, and the only reason why they got back on their feet is because the western world and the USSR let them.

Despite the numerous war crimes and civilian crimes the nation committed, I think we can all accept the super powers of the world saw Germanys ability to contribute emensly in a positive way to the modern world and decided to let them do it.

They could've executed Braun since he was a nazi party member and the head of the ss secret weapons division. And he personally developed weapons of mass destruction that were specifically designed to terrorize and kill civilians... if u ask me, I think he got a damn lucky break.

 

[Lugerman1937]

Two things,one is you can’t fit a fixed stock to a folder or visa versa because the receivers are different. Two there is on last shipment coming in sometime in 2019 but that’s it as far as what was allotted to TI. There were indeed made on the tail of a military pla contract, polytech won’t make them unless they are doing a huge military contract as there is no money to be made. There is pose to be part kits coming in on the last shipment but ya they are a limited time only gun

Ok that’s some good info, thank you. I’ve heard this as well regarding a one time run of these rifles. I haven’t heard of any issues with em, but it does scare me off a bit if parts break or wear. I’m not to sure about the 2019 order as nobody is taking pre orders to my knowledge. Thanks for the heads up on the stock swap. I think for now I’ll pass on this rifle platform.

 

[Lugerman1937]

They totally lost the war, and the only reason why they got back on their feet is because the western world and the USSR let them.

Despite the numerous war crimes and civilian crimes the nation committed, I think we can all accept the super powers of the world saw Germanys ability to contribute emensly in a positive way to the modern world and decided to let them do it.

They could've executed Braun since he was a nazi party member and the head of the ss secret weapons division. And he personally developed weapons of mass destruction that were specifically designed to terrorize and kill civilians... if u ask me, I think he got a damn lucky break.

Ohh yea he got of pretty lucky I’d say. While the Nuremberg trials were taking place he was awarded with his own nasa facility. The irony in all that baffles me. He should of been one of the guys in the chair at the trials. It’s no different than what Truman did. He knowingly dropped the bomb on Hiroshima in the Center of town to detonate directly over the main civilian bridge. Under the Geneva convention it’s is considered to be a war crime to bomb a bridge used by civilians, yet he did it with no repercussions. Meanwhile across the pond an SS officer in the Luftwaffe (forgot his name as I don’t have my notes with me, no it wasn’t Göring) accidentally hit a foot bridge with one stray bomb and he was sentenced to death by hanging. He was only charged with this one war crime yet the Hiroshima bomb was outlined to detonate over the bridge in the war plans and authorized. The entire aftermath of WW2 wasn’t handled as it should have been. To much of a one way street scenario as most historians agree. All the companies that profited from the war should have been sitting at the Nuremberg trials as it states in the Geneva convention that profiting from war is a war crime. My family along with millions of others lost everything when the Russians rolled through my country of Hungary and others. All the banks were cleaned out along with the land deeds of property that was in families for generations, all gone. It was all a massive campaign of greed and power in the final days. If a war criminal was seen fit to better a nations economy than they gave him/her a clean slate.
Glad to see someone else talking about this, to much of it is being buried and forgotten. History wether good or bad must be kept alive. Schools out my way hardly touch base on the topic anymore, very sad. I’ve asked school boards why they don’t teach it like they use to and they just say it’s not in our agenda.

 

[Curtton]

They totally lost the war, and the only reason why they got back on their feet is because the western world and the USSR let them..

True cos a lesson was learnt after ww1. war reparation caused the germans to cart wheelbarrows of marks to buy a loaf of bread.

Soon guys like Hitler took advantage of the situation.

 

[woodsy]

I don't think there is a next batch

I contacted TI a few weeks ago and they said a new shipment should be arriving in 2019.