Type 81 SR Serious Quality Concern

Yeah great idea. Last I checked, they buy these in batches. What happens when they run out, or supreme leader says no more? How will they replace it then? How many people that bought this have no idea of this problem and will end up with a broken stock down the road with no chance of replacement?

I'd be in if there is a sale, let's say 20 % off. I fix those stocks in no time and you won't even see a thing.
 
I'd be in if there is a sale, let's say 20 % off. I fix those stocks in no time and you won't even see a thing.

Most of us here can. The problem TI is going to have is with the countless people who have one of these that are useless with tools. And in this day and age, unfortunately, they are the majority.
 
Thanks for posting that vid, I was thinking about this approach using those fasteners and mechanical screws would make securing the stock very professional looking and easy takedown !

Your welcome on behalf of Ex3dy who originaly posted it..... :)
It's going to be interesting to see what people come up with and what TI decides to do if they choose to beef it up.
 
If you look at the amount of wood between the receiver and the thumbhole, there is a real limit on the length of the screw that can be used.
You want a screw that bites firmly into the wood, with a minimum of wedging action. You don't want to split the stock. A pilot hole would be a really good idea.
Drywall and deck screws have sharp, aggressive threads. The leading edge of the thread can be notched, so that the screw cuts its way in, like a tap.
 
If you look at the amount of wood between the receiver and the thumbhole, there is a real limit on the length of the screw that can be used.
You want a screw that bites firmly into the wood, with a minimum of wedging action. You don't want to split the stock. A pilot hole would be a really good idea.
Drywall and deck screws have sharp, aggressive threads. The leading edge of the thread can be notched, so that the screw cuts its way in, like a tap.

I would consider a pilot hole essential.
 
Bfiles, a super strong and effective way of adding strength to wood, going back to my rc airplane days. Was pull out said screw from wood and add super thin CA glue "superglue" the thin ca will wick into the wood alot deeper then epoxy alone.

My first post on here haha and yes I am still waiting for my sr to arrive, never knew this issue was an issue until I joined today.
 
Bfiles, a super strong and effective way of adding strength to wood, going back to my rc airplane days. Was pull out said screw from wood and add super thin CA glue "superglue" the thin ca will wick into the wood alot deeper then epoxy alone.

My first post on here haha and yes I am still waiting for my sr to arrive, never knew this issue was an issue until I joined today.

we had only epoxy 40 years ago if im not wrong. done a lot of glider in those days and a lot of fixes lol.

welcome here
 
Doing something to strengthen the wood/screw interface won't hurt.
But look at the stock/receiver interface. Two cross pins, perhaps with a screw to strengthen the connection. The pins and screw are pretty close together. Not a whole lot of wood in the area.
A blow on the heel of the stock is going to put a lot of strain on the connection. I could see the screw pulling out and the stock splitting through the pin area.
Just stop and think about other rifles with two-piece stocks. Every one I can think of has a more robust way of attaching the stock to the receiver. Tangs, through bolts. And even then, there are failures with broken tangs, broken stocks.
 
the polymer stock of the svd can be mounted on the ndm86 so imagine it is doable as well for the sr81 but where to get one in canada legally will an interesting $1000 question ...

You can legally import non regulated parts of prohib rifles.

I imported a PSL type stock years back from an ebay purchase.

Now that CBSA has weirdo feelings about the m16/ar15 OIC they may have changed their tune, but a wood or polymer stock could be used for repairing an old prohib (which they do not need to know to import), airsoft, a prop, trophy, mountable object or other project.
 
looks like there might be a market for real strong composite furniture for these rifles.
I'm trying to get thru hunting season and $$$ are tight these days but if I can get my hands on one of these SR versions ..... I might just look at re-opening my stock making business and cgn account..... have had a lot of people trying to get me to make stocks for various things this past year...... I'm still being a stick in the mud about it though LOL
 
You can legally import non regulated parts of prohib rifles.

I imported a PSL type stock years back from an ebay purchase.

Now that CBSA has weirdo feelings about the m16/ar15 OIC they may have changed their tune, but a wood or polymer stock could be used for repairing an old prohib (which they do not need to know to import), airsoft, a prop, trophy, mountable object or other project.

got 2 psop made in belarus that were shipped from usa that cbsa sent back after 2 months in the cbsa of office of toronto so you may be right on the legal way but we are always at the mercy of the cbsa ...
 
looks like there might be a market for real strong composite furniture for these rifles.
I'm trying to get thru hunting season and $$$ are tight these days but if I can get my hands on one of these SR versions ..... I might just look at re-opening my stock making business and cgn account..... have had a lot of people trying to get me to make stocks for various things this past year...... I'm still being a stick in the mud about it though LOL

cant wait to see your stock and see how it holds.
 
cant wait to see your stock and see how it holds.

can't make one without a rifle here so it might be a very long wait as I don't own a Type 81.
I might reach out to my circle of friends after hunting season and see if any of them have bought one I can borrow for a few weeks.
 
looks like there might be a market for real strong composite furniture for these rifles.
I'm trying to get thru hunting season and $$$ are tight these days but if I can get my hands on one of these SR versions ..... I might just look at re-opening my stock making business and cgn account..... have had a lot of people trying to get me to make stocks for various things this past year...... I'm still being a stick in the mud about it though LOL

If you can provide a solid stock, take my money straight out.
 
If you can provide a solid stock, take my money straight out.

I'm not selling anything , nor looking to drum up customers, I was just commenting that it could be done.
Heck I have made a great many composite stocks from my own moulds and almost as many chop mod stocks for the m14 rifle and those came with a lifetime warranty...... been awfully quiet in the warranty department.... not a peep in fact. * except for one early model stock
Building a solid replacement in composite materials would be a simple task though it requires some set up and a stock to copy.

Someone posted a while back that there were 2000 of these SR models imported? If 10% crack, that is 200 rifles......
I'll ponder things..... watch and see what this government is gonna do next and see if I want to sign up as a business member again.... we'll see. It has been awhile since I did any gun related stuff and I am interested in this particular rifle.
 
I got my rifle today and had a look at how the stock attaches and yeah I can see that it’s a weak spot
Saw the hole in the back where b-files drilled the wood and attached the wood screw
I think I have another idea that could work in conjunction with b-files mod
where the recoil spring retainer slides in the groove if a hole was drilled through the steel and down into the stock another screw could be installed, the screw would go straight down into the pistol grip and a longer screw could be used
The hole drilled through the metal would have to be countersunk in order for the screw to fit flush with the surface so that the recoil spring can be put back on
That metal is pretty thick so I don’t think it would weaken the area at the back
Not sure if doing this would affect any warranty as it’s more intrusive then what b-files did
What do you guys think? Would doing this add any extra strength to the stock?
 
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