Type 81 - Why is your safety/fire selector so terrible?!

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Does anyone find this functional? 180 degrees of rotation, on the left, in a place unreachable while holding the rifle properly.

Lefties, is this any better for you fellas?


Does anyone like this?

What's the rational for this? Would there traditionally be a full auto select to break this up?

It's my only complaint- Love the mags, the rifle, the accuracy, I'm even good with the sights.....hate HATE the safety.


Just curious as to what other think?

ITB
 
It was mentioned in another thread Winchester94 confirmed that when the safety is at the 90 degree mark where full auto used to be the safety is still engaged though there is no detent. Should be a relatively easy modification to make this a 90 degree that user Cone_Skid_Cone was going to start the fabrication process.
 
Vigilant said:
Its exactly the same as on the Type 97 rifle. POO!

I wish it was a bit longer so I can actually reach it.
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What I don't get, is that my hands should be almost double the size of the hand that it was designed for, no? And yet, it's unreachable... Maybe the safety isn't meant to be used, aesthetics only?
 
Jaylegger said:
It was mentioned in another thread Winchester94 confirmed that when the safety is at the 90 degree mark where full auto used to be the safety is still engaged though there is no detent. Should be a relatively easy modification to make this a 90 degree that user Cone_Skid_Cone was going to start the fabrication process.
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Very interesting, I hadn't thought to check that. I'm going to have a look at what can be done. It makes you quickly realize how nice the AR style ergonomics are though.
 
OK which 2 T81 threads is it that are reproducing like bunnies? We need to separate them. LOL

Can't say yet if it's indeed better for lefties as I still don't have my rifle nor a tracking number yet.
 
I try to keep up to date, but sifting through the T81 threads has become a full time job. Putting this in any of those threads would lead to ...well...what you finished your post with... Don't want to disrespect any of you gents getting a raw deal.

ITB
 
In The Black said:
I try to keep up to date, but sifting through the T81 threads has become a full time job. Putting this in any of those threads would lead to ...well...what you finished your post with... Don't want to disrespect any of you gents getting a raw deal.

ITB
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LOL I can only keep up because I'm retired and can spare the time needed to read all the T81 threads.
 
I've switched my to safe twice I think, my rifle is on safe when there is no round in the chamber. I'd prefer it if it had a 45 or 90 degree safety but I really don't care too much. I'm not going to be doing CQB drills or run and gun with it, just wandering around hoping to cross paths with a coyote once in a while.
It shouldn't be too difficult to file a detent flat spot in the safety, since it's on safe at 90 degrees it just needs a flat spot for the spring to sit in I think. I was going to look at it closer one of these days but it doesn't bother me enough to do anything about it yet.

The good news is that I've put a lot of miles on mine already with it slung across my back and I have yet to find the safety moved from fire position from rubbing on my jacket while walking. I've also never had a magazine accidentally drop either while slung. Nice little rifle for the quad or back seat of the Jeep :)

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Still alive said:
ITB,
To be fair, a select fire AR/ M-16 would have the 180 position also. So, similar to the T-81.

Only difference is the AR switch is more ergonomic, at least for me!
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True enough, if my thumb could actually reach it, that would work. I just find the placement odd, having to cant the rifle to operate it. I'm clearly just being a whiner.. :)



crashcollins said:
LOL I can only keep up because I'm retired and can spare the time needed to read all the T81 threads.
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Crash, can I borrow some spare time!?




cr5 said:
I've switched my to safe twice I think, my rifle is on safe when there is no round in the chamber. I'd prefer it if it had a 45 or 90 degree safety but I really don't care too much. I'm not going to be doing CQB drills or run and gun with it, just wandering around hoping to cross paths with a coyote once in a while.
It shouldn't be too difficult to file a detent flat spot in the safety, since it's on safe at 90 degrees it just needs a flat spot for the spring to sit in I think. I was going to look at it closer one of these days but it doesn't bother me enough to do anything about it yet.

The good news is that I've put a lot of miles on mine already with it slung across my back and I have yet to find the safety moved from fire position from rubbing on my jacket while walking. I've also never had a magazine accidentally drop either while slung. Nice little rifle for the quad or back seat of the Jeep :)

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The finger safety is what I ended up going with too. I'm a stickler for the details though, there's something about clicking that little switch that has become engrained in my routine.

I'm happy with the rifle too, I found the sights accurate right out of the box. It feels sturdy, feeds and shoots without failure for my first 250+ rounds of CanAm's new MFG. ammo.
 
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In The Black said:
What I don't get, is that my hands should be almost double the size of the hand that it was designed for, no? And yet, it's unreachable... Maybe the safety isn't meant to be used, aesthetics only?
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Granny? You look different,
My what big hands you have,
And what large magazines you have,
Is that a new Type-81 you've got next to your bed?

Red?
Is that you?
Come closer so I can see what you have in that basket,
Oh, how sweet you brought your dear old granny 750 rounds of non corrosive x39...

Lol
 
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Communist Bloc militarys traditionally thought of safety switches on rifles as something to be used mainly when you're no longer going to be in direct control of the weapon, like when you're slinging or storing it.

Thus they didn't go out of their way to ensure that they can be conveniently actuated.
 
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