Type 97NSR test fire question....

Same here. Even with cheap ammo my tavor shots tiny groups at 25 yards. Heck, at 50 yards its impressive. At 100 yards they start to open up. I'm not impressed by any results at 25 yards. If your gun can't shoot small groups that close... Throw it out. 50 is the meat and potatoes for me... 100 is more than ill shoot it but it tells the greater story IMO.
If you aren't ringing a gong at 200 yards every shot with iron sights, you're doing it wrong.
 
Thats at 25 yards...

I'm getting one of these, dont get me wrong, but at 25 yards my tavor is punching holes in holes.

The pic with the 10 groups shot by doctor lector were shot at 109 meters. They're 10 shot groups. I believe the type 97 used had some crown work and doctor lector used his hand loads. I'd like to see any tavor owner out there replicate those groups.
 
Those were not 25 yards groups they were 100 meters ! its 333 yards

Well the guy posted 100 yards with a zeist scope and his groups look like .5moa, which is almost unbelievable, just like everything else from China, we make the best stuff in the world, lots of huff and puff. So this would put this rifle in the same group as a Les Bar supermatch? better than an hk sl8? Doubtful... Unless they have mastered 100 years of quality German machining in say about 5 years? But hey sure I'll believe it when i shoot it and I'll be the first to eat my words and start drinking the chinese kool-aid
 
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I shot the first T97 and magazine changes were horrible. Accuracy was good however.

I had been imagining how fast you can change a magazine when it is so far back.

I came to the conclusion that the FN P90 wher magazine is on top and the AR platform where the magazine is in front of trigger makes a lot more sense for changing mags faster.

I don't know how well the bullpop design would be in the field. Does anyone have experience with bullpops in the field?
 
So, can we get word direct from NS where the rifles are? So far, 2 highly reputable retailers indicated that they're already on the ground. Some clearing delays or is it all good indahood? :cool:
 
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