U.S. Ban on 0.40 S&W exports to Canada?
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aftermidnight
CGN frequent flyer
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- West Kelowna BC
A few months ago (a Sunday) US Customs had a checkpoint on the way OUT of the USA. They asked what we had..(household goods..regular stuff). Then they asked if we had been to a specific gun shop that trip. I have in the past been in there, as had my friend, but not for months. They knew. We knew. We knew that they knew. They knew that we knew that they knew. Everybody knew. Lol
Now, how did they know to ask us about that specific shop, hmm? Someone's recording/reporting liscence plates in the parking lots. And what would have happened to us had we had "stuff"? I'm glad we didn't have to find out.
Now, how did they know to ask us about that specific shop, hmm? Someone's recording/reporting liscence plates in the parking lots. And what would have happened to us had we had "stuff"? I'm glad we didn't have to find out.
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aftermidnight
CGN frequent flyer
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Yep.. so for those that think the US guys don't follow up... they do.
It will be your turn one day....and it will be your ass.
It will be your turn one day....and it will be your ass.
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- Montreal, Quebec
And when did you fall off the cabbage truck?
The Americans most certainly DO "check" you on the way out!
Two years ago at the Champlain NY crossing, roadblock 500meters before the Canadian Customs booth, two US border guards and a German Sheppard who sniffed out my trunk. Border agents looked in glove box under sun visors...
1st time in over 20 years I have been checked on the way "out". Don't get caught with contraband materials or you are so very screwed.
Don't matter if you have a truckload of ammo or just a box of .22LR, all the same to them. And they do NOT have a sense of humor when it comes to breaking their laws.
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- my heart in the blue sea
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- Halifax - NS
One of the Orlando (FL) papers had an article in it just the other day that you can't find ammo in any store in the area right now - everyone's cleaned out - gun shops, wallmart, bass pro, etc.
As redleg said, the US is hoarding and we're going to wait accordingly.
As redleg said, the US is hoarding and we're going to wait accordingly.
you dont have to insult me , i never fell off the turnip truck
for your info , I have never been spot checked , so how would I know .
I love it when people like you have to throw in a jab when someone writes something like I wrote ! You sure told me
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- Montreal, Quebec
Trevor: I should have realized that some folks are thin skinned! You really should "toughen up" a bit if you are going to play on CGN.
I will try to remember that any future posts in your regard must be politically correct so as not to offend... believe me, if I had "intended" to offend, you would have been painfully aware of it.
And BTW, it was CABBAGE truck, which is not the same as the "Turnip" truck, so don't mix your vegetables up! It is better to be from the cabbage patch rather than the turnip bin (Cabbages are smarter) lol.
Again, a friendly word of advice, this is the INTERNET, do NOT take things personally. I have too often seen flame wars over an innocent remark.
And do be careful about breaking American laws. I have a friend who did ONE "B&E" when he was 17. He is now 55, has not had a speeding ticket in his life, and can NOT go to the U.S. for a visit. He is blacklisted for life for something he did 38 years ago in Canada! The yanks do NOT forgive... ever. Smuggling out a box of 9mm ammo is so not worth it!
Is it possible that particular gun shop had been doing something wrong, and they were asking everyone that went through the checkpoint?
I do know that they dont forgive , and i know all about the synicism on here , anyways w/e , I also know about the laws in the states , and have never bought ammo there! I also know about the whole break and enter thing because I am as well not allowed into the states because of the one time i went over for some reason was honest and disclosed the fact the I did a B&E when i was 18 , well over 10 years ago and was denied entry and treated like a terrorist! The things they make you do now when you get denied, you can get back into the states you just have to apply for a US travell waiver , you should tell your friend about it if he ever wants to go there .
Anyways , i was onlyjabbing at you to see what you would write back
oh yeah and my dad always said I didnt fall off the "turnip" truck , so there !!!!!!
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- Montreal, Quebec
A "waiver" is like a couple of hundred bucks a year. Even if you get a "pardon" from the Canadian parole board, the U.S. will not recognize it once you are in their system. And ever since 911 they are even worse than before.
I am allowed to CCW in the U.S. and would hate to lose that priviledge over $25 of ammo!
I am allowed to CCW in the U.S. and would hate to lose that priviledge over $25 of ammo!
Honestly the way the STATES Have been acting towards the world since 911 especially CANADA.. I SAY #### THEM... TO HELL... They are turning out to be more bull #### pussies than They claim we are...
#### EM
pISS ON EM
Screw EM
Poo Em
Jerk Em
Umm Um,,, #### you USA.... RIGHYT UP THE ASS... FREE TRADE,, YEAH, Well tell you what, when ever you think you can x the 49th to steal our water.. SOME of us will be waiting for ya...and we will see who the better red neck is..
#### EM
pISS ON EM
Screw EM
Poo Em
Jerk Em
Umm Um,,, #### you USA.... RIGHYT UP THE ASS... FREE TRADE,, YEAH, Well tell you what, when ever you think you can x the 49th to steal our water.. SOME of us will be waiting for ya...and we will see who the better red neck is..
bushwacker
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- Winnipeg,Manitoba
I hope your wrong.
aftermidnight
CGN frequent flyer
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- West Kelowna BC
Soulchaser: re my experience w/ US Customs,
Though possible there had been issues w/ that particular vendor, there is 2 border crossings within 5 minutes of each other another 30 minutes down the road and another 20 minutes past that one. All perfectly logical for us to have been using had they been waiting for us in particular. I highly doubt they would have watchdogs at them all just for us. Having said that though, we got the definite understanding that the Secret Agent Man knew he was asking the right questions to the right guys (previous "browsers"). Most of the population would have gone "Huh? Where? What's that?" at mention of the store's name.
And after all that, I didn't think that store was even open on Sundays... All those wasted Sundays down there back in the day and never a shopping trip to the "good" shops...lol
Though possible there had been issues w/ that particular vendor, there is 2 border crossings within 5 minutes of each other another 30 minutes down the road and another 20 minutes past that one. All perfectly logical for us to have been using had they been waiting for us in particular. I highly doubt they would have watchdogs at them all just for us. Having said that though, we got the definite understanding that the Secret Agent Man knew he was asking the right questions to the right guys (previous "browsers"). Most of the population would have gone "Huh? Where? What's that?" at mention of the store's name.
And after all that, I didn't think that store was even open on Sundays...
All those wasted Sundays down there back in the day and never a shopping trip to the "good" shops...lol
Here is that article...
And Now: Ammunition Shortages
February 15th, 2009
Bullets are the projectiles that are propelled out of firearms. This stupid article treats bullets and ammunition as synonyms. I’m assuming that, regardless of the term, it’s referring to completed, ready to fire ammunition.
Is there actually a shortage on bullets? That’s not clear from reading this. I’m sure there are some reloaders out there who know the answer to that.
Via: Orlando Sentinel:
Selling bullets may be the most secure job in Florida as long as supplies last.
After months of heavy buying, gun dealers across the state are experiencing shortages.
Some say it began with the election of President Barack Obama. Others say it’s about the economic downturn or fear of crime. Whatever the reasons, ammunition has been selling like plywood and bottled water in the days before a hurricane.
“The survivalist in all of us comes out,” said John Ritz, manager of East Orange Shooting Sports in Winter Park. “It’s more about protecting what you have.”
Demand for bullets is so strong that suppliers are restricting deliveries.
“Where we used to get 20 to 30 cases [in a shipment], we may get two to three cases now,” said Vic Grechniw of Florida Ammo Traders in Tampa. “The supply just isn’t there. . . . Everybody is pretty much rushing out to get their hands on whatever they can.”
Most in demand is handgun ammunition, including 9 mm and .45-caliber for semiautomatic pistols and .38-caliber for revolvers. Clerks at local Walmart stores, including Apopka and Kissimmee, say those sizes, along with .22-caliber, are on back order at the chain’s warehouses.
American gun owners buy about 7 billion rounds of ammunition yearly, according to the National Rifle Association. It has been warning its several million members that Obama favors raising taxes on bullets to make them prohibitively expensive.
“Anecdotal evidence certainly suggests that the demand for ammunition is continuing to increase, and that is certainly attributable to gun owners’ concerns with the current administration,” said Ted Novin, a spokesman for the National Shooting Sports Foundation, a trade association representing 4,700 members.
The scarcity of bullets piggybacked on more widely publicized sales of assault rifles.
“Everybody kind of got caught with their pants down,” Larry Anderson, manager of Shoot Straight in Apopka, said about the demand for bullets, which surprised even longtime gun dealers.
Each day he spends one to two hours on the phone talking to suppliers to buy ammunition for Shoot Straight’s store and shooting ranges in Apopka, Casselberry and Tampa.
“We’re fortunate with the buying power we’ve got and the connections we’ve got,” Anderson said.
Despite being able to buy 100,000 rounds at a time, Shoot Straight can’t find any copper-jacketed bullets for .380-caliber pistols, popular as concealed weapons. The shops have adequate supplies of other calibers.
“You’ve got to beat the bushes and take deals,” Anderson said. “Now I take whatever I can get instead of being finicky.”
National chains are seeing the same increased levels of customers buying guns and ammunition in recent months, said Larry L. Whiteley, a spokesman for Bass Pro Shops.
“Why, we don’t know,” he said.
One major regional manufacturer, Georgia Arms, has seen bullet sales jump 100 percent since the November election.
“People are just stockpiling,” said company spokeswoman Judy Shipley. “A gun is just like a car. If you can’t get gas, you can’t use it.”
Georgia Arms sells more than 100 types of ammunition for handguns, shotguns and rifles at gun shows from South Florida as far north as Virginia. It now cautions online buyers, “Attention: Due to a huge increase in demand, our shipping times have been delayed 5-7 weeks on most orders. Please be patient with us and know we will fill your orders ASAP.”
Demand has been so strong for all things gun that the Oak Ridge Gun Range south of Orlando is moving to a new, larger range in three weeks.
“It used to be you’d order bullets and get them in the next day. Now it can take a couple of months,” said owner John Harvey, who has seen demand for state concealed-weapons classes increase 300 percent since the election.
“I haven’t been able to get any smaller concealed guns that I’d recommend come in in two months,” Harvey said. “Basically, Smith & Wesson is out of Smith & Wesson.”
The latest surge is pushing already high costs still higher.
“It was going up long before the political thing got started,” Drew Huy, owner since 1981 of Ammo Attic in Melbourne, said of prices that have increased as much as 40 percent in recent years.
He and other dealers, including Ritz, attributed rising costs to shortages of brass, copper and lead brought on by the industrial consumption in India and China. In addition, rising fuel prices dramatically increased shipping costs for ammunition, heavy by nature.
“I’m spending a lot more on it now [to buy it] than I was selling it for two years ago,” Ritz said. At his shop in Winter Park he has seen the cost of bullets rise as much as 10 percent every three months for the past two years.
Suppliers to law-enforcement agencies are doing better than retail shops.
“We’re in good shape,” said Tom Falone of Florida Bullet in Clearwater, who sells Federal and Spear brand ammunition to police departments and sheriff’s offices. The only slight problem has been obtaining .40-caliber bullets, and those are delivered within 30 days.
“I called about .22 [bullets] the other day, and they had 12 million rounds in the warehouse.”
My guess is the two wars are draining manufacture's capacity.
Next we didn't get aircraft flown into our major cities and crashed as bombs.
Americans are good people some laws maybe nutty but it is their country and I believe we must follow their laws.
Things do change over time either this will get worse before it gets better. It all depends on who is in Washington.
Next we didn't get aircraft flown into our major cities and crashed as bombs.
Americans are good people some laws maybe nutty but it is their country and I believe we must follow their laws.
Things do change over time either this will get worse before it gets better. It all depends on who is in Washington.
