Uberti El Patrone vs. Cimarron Evil Roy - a comparison

That's not a bad price at all (for Canada), almost $100 less than mine cost. I was initially quoted a soft price of $800, but the importer/seller stuck me with the full import fee when he got it in. I do understand his side and his desire not to lose money, but I wish he had disclosed the extra $150 fee before I ordered. I would have placed the order anyhow, but felt a little deceived. YMMV.

All in all though, I'm glad to have the two guns - I consider both great - though honestly the El Patrone is a better buy being so much cheaper than the Cimarron. True, Cimarron puts extra effort into QA/QC, but Uberti does too on their premium line since each gun is hand-tuned by a SAA gunsmith, instead of ust assembled from a bin of parts by semi-skilled labour like the regular Cattleman guns are.
 
I have the Beretta Stampede Claven2. Not sure where it fits in with the Urbertis. It has the transfer bar system. Fit and finish is excellent. How would you compare the Stampede to the Urbertis?

My comments regarding the Stampede

My hammer needed replacing as the hook wore quickly leaving me with an unsafe gun. I ordered a replacement hammer and to date have had no issues since. The screws do require loctite which is common to the SAA design. The harmonics I am told congtribute to this. I lost the screws for the ejector rod before using loctite.

The cylinder retaining rod on the Stampede has a spring loaded tip that keeps the transfer bar back from hanging on the firing pin as it rises when the hammer is cocked. Mine for some reason stock which caused a minor anoyance until I discovered what the problem was. Those issues aside I am pleased with the Stampede. If I were to start over I think I would prefer the foring pin attached to the hammer for appearance sake. As soon as funds are available I likely will seek another Stampede in 4 3/4"

Take Care

Bob
 
Hi Bob, Unlike o nthe Rugers, the Stampede has a reputation for wearing out hammers and breaking transfer bars under heavy use (like in CAS). Otherwise, they are like any other Uberti, but stamped "Beretta". Beretta, of course, owns Uberti so this should not be surprising to anyone.

I would rate the Beretta about the same as a standard Cattleman with slightly better grip fit and case hardening. The Premium Ubertis are nicer than the Berettas in my experience.
 
Thanks for the reply. As to the hammers is that a one time deal or has nothing changed? I ask because I can always switch to the Urberties. The finish on my Stampede was noticeably nicer than one of the guys Cattlemans at our club. From the photos my Stampede loks a lot like the guns above. The transfer bar is a PITA though.

Best

Bob
ps No snow here and above zero. One benefit of living on the left coast even at this latitude.
 
Bob, I think you would be better served by getting an El Patrone or, if you want to spend that much, an Evil Roy for your second SAA. They will be even nicer than the Stampede and will be more durable over the long haul.

I'm not a ruger fan, but they are popular in CAS for a reason, they have a lower rate of failure than any other SAAs being run, but are not authentic in any way. They do have a transfer bar that is reliable and won't break if that is a feature you like.

Personally though, I will never own a Ruger due to Bill Ruger's politics.
 
Claven2 said:
Bob, I think you would be better served by getting an El Patrone or, if you want to spend that much, an Evil Roy for your second SAA. They will be even nicer than the Stampede and will be more durable over the long haul.

I'm not a ruger fan, but they are popular in CAS for a reason, they have a lower rate of failure than any other SAAs being run, but are not authentic in any way. They do have a transfer bar that is reliable and won't break if that is a feature you like.

Personally though, I will never own a Ruger due to Bill Ruger's politics.
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El Patrone it is then. I will see if I can find a dealer to get me one.

Take Care

Bob
 
Ooppsy made a mistake mine was $869.99 BUT dealer payed tax duing month of Jan promotion.
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Trinimon said:
haha, hills?! Ahhh, yer lucky! We couldn't afford hills! We were so poor we lived in a damp cardboard box in the middle of the street... all 20 of us and we liked it.
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"You had a cardboard box??? LUXURY!!! We lived in a rolled-up newspaper at the bottom of a rubbish tip, and got rocks for dinner. We had to get to go to work, half an hour before we went to bed, and clean the rubbish tip with our tongues..."

Ah, the joys of Monty Python & the gang...Laugh2
 
I did this exact same comparison at a gun shop a couple weeks ago, in 357 mag
The Evil Roy did seem the smoothest of the Uberti's ($200 more than el Patron) and the Ruger I tested was the second smoothest.
I want to look at the SASS Ruger set before I buy, at $1499 it would be the best deal for 2 guns.
 
Ruger is THE way to go if you want out-of-the box performance for lowest possible cost. They work well and shoot well. Just not authentic.

If I made up the SASS rules, the Ruger would be banned. Think about it, how many transfer-bar guns of the rugger's design were present in the old west? Oh right, none.

similarly, I would ban the new Henry Lever Action rifles. They are a totally modern design with no resemblance to anything period.
 
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