Ugly Betty M14
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you CAN have m14 parts exported from the states..... I have a pile of em here in front of me..... with a nice formal "export approved" document from state dept and U.S. customs..... ya just have to do it right and on the level.
the EE is not a VIABLE means of procuring parts on a whim..... you are stuck with what little becomes availlable. AND IT"S A FACT that there are NO current retailers anywhere selling aftermarket NEW never installed replacement CHINESE parts. Your only real option is to buy more than one complete chinese rifle and save for one as a spare parts donor. OR swap to USGI bits and utilize the VAST availlability of usgi and aftermarket M1A/M14 parts. You can argue with that all you want Buckbrush but it's a simple fact.....
all that said..... most norcs i've handled shoot and function just as they should with NO usgi parts installed.
the EE is not a VIABLE means of procuring parts on a whim..... you are stuck with what little becomes availlable. AND IT"S A FACT that there are NO current retailers anywhere selling aftermarket NEW never installed replacement CHINESE parts. Your only real option is to buy more than one complete chinese rifle and save for one as a spare parts donor. OR swap to USGI bits and utilize the VAST availlability of usgi and aftermarket M1A/M14 parts. You can argue with that all you want Buckbrush but it's a simple fact.....
all that said..... most norcs i've handled shoot and function just as they should with NO usgi parts installed.
Some of the Norcs are near perfect out of the box, and adding GI parts is NOT always a cost effective thing to do.
At the Wet Coast Seminars,
I pass around a piece of paper with a 4 shot 100 yd group of 5/8".
This was shot with a basically stock, out of the box NORC,, shot off a 6"X6" block of wood for a rest, dim/overcast/drizzly weather.
NOTE: the Norc rifle had only these changes from stock:
1.] Promag Scope mount & Bushnell 10X Mildot scope [ my eyes are 60 years old and have been lasered, and I can't test a rifle for accuracy without a scope, so I bolt a scope and mount on temporarily when I am accuracy testing ]
2.] US GI Op rod Spring and Marstar SS spring guide
3.] 168 Gr HPBT MATCH factory ammunition
4.] The trigger was absolutely horrible ...
about 8 lbs with creep and grit,
so I threw away the one flyer that brought the group out to about 1 3/4".
ONCE AGAIN, THIS WAS DONE WITH AN OUT OF THE BOX NORINCO M-305, with the original CHU Mystery wood stock, and only the above minor modifications.
I also had another Chinese 14 that shot 2" groups with the original LoNNNNNG headspace Chinese bolt, USING SA 7.62 NATO BALL AMMO. I did nothing else but swap in a .308 heaqdspaced GI bolt, and a GI op rod spring, and it shot a 5 shot 3/4" group with the same ammo.
If you get under 1 MOA with BALL, not much point in doing anything more, right??
SO,
I think I can fairly confirms that some of the NORC 14s shoot "acceptably" right out of the box.
Of course, since my "keeper" norc shot so well, I cut the barrel to 18 5/8", added a Dlask 1/2"x28 TPI .30 cal shorty muzzle brake, threw it into a US GI fiberglass stock I'd made into a folder, and added US GI "BLING" to the trigger group. NOTE that it still has a Chinese bolt, cause that one headspaces perfectly.
Hopefully,
after all that extra work and money, it will still shoot as well as some of the stock, out of the box Norcs do.
[;{)
LAZ 1
At the Wet Coast Seminars,
I pass around a piece of paper with a 4 shot 100 yd group of 5/8".
This was shot with a basically stock, out of the box NORC,, shot off a 6"X6" block of wood for a rest, dim/overcast/drizzly weather.
NOTE: the Norc rifle had only these changes from stock:
1.] Promag Scope mount & Bushnell 10X Mildot scope [ my eyes are 60 years old and have been lasered, and I can't test a rifle for accuracy without a scope, so I bolt a scope and mount on temporarily when I am accuracy testing ]
2.] US GI Op rod Spring and Marstar SS spring guide
3.] 168 Gr HPBT MATCH factory ammunition
4.] The trigger was absolutely horrible ...
about 8 lbs with creep and grit,
so I threw away the one flyer that brought the group out to about 1 3/4".
ONCE AGAIN, THIS WAS DONE WITH AN OUT OF THE BOX NORINCO M-305, with the original CHU Mystery wood stock, and only the above minor modifications.
I also had another Chinese 14 that shot 2" groups with the original LoNNNNNG headspace Chinese bolt, USING SA 7.62 NATO BALL AMMO. I did nothing else but swap in a .308 heaqdspaced GI bolt, and a GI op rod spring, and it shot a 5 shot 3/4" group with the same ammo.
If you get under 1 MOA with BALL, not much point in doing anything more, right??
SO,
I think I can fairly confirms that some of the NORC 14s shoot "acceptably" right out of the box.
Of course, since my "keeper" norc shot so well, I cut the barrel to 18 5/8", added a Dlask 1/2"x28 TPI .30 cal shorty muzzle brake, threw it into a US GI fiberglass stock I'd made into a folder, and added US GI "BLING" to the trigger group. NOTE that it still has a Chinese bolt, cause that one headspaces perfectly.
Hopefully,
after all that extra work and money, it will still shoot as well as some of the stock, out of the box Norcs do.
[;{)
LAZ 1
Many of the Norc M14's were sold that way. Works fine. Now you can get more velocity since there is slightly less gas escaping.
Seriously, it's fine!
I have no doubt that it's "fine"... But gawd it's UGLY!! LOL
So, if I run it as is, I don't run the risk of my #### falling off?
I assume that you are talking about getting a proper Chinese flash hider from someone who chopped the barrel of theirs and put something else on. The Wet Coast Support Group meeting in April seems like there were at least three if not four barrels cut off that day. That is three, maybe four, people who have a Chinese flash hider that they aren't planning on using. Post a WTB in the EE and I bet someone will set you up cheap if you really want to change it.
