Detachable magazines that clip into a hinged floorplate = ultimate!
ultimate deer rifle???
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Detachable magazines that clip into a hinged floorplate = ultimate!
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I guess for me I have 2 ultimate deer rifles, one a zastava x39, going to be fitting a scipechief 1.5-4.5 scope on it, the other a 6.5x55, going to be mounting a 2-7x32 elite on it.
The x39 is going to be my carry around up to 100 m, it's nice and compact so very pointable in thicker bush. The 6.5x55, I can load 120 gr BT and take deer with lighter recoil, nice thing is also can load 160 gr round nose and take elk and smaller moose wit correct shot placement.
I guess it matters on each person, I like wood and blued wood, another guy might like AR with a large objective scope.
The x39 is going to be my carry around up to 100 m, it's nice and compact so very pointable in thicker bush. The 6.5x55, I can load 120 gr BT and take deer with lighter recoil, nice thing is also can load 160 gr round nose and take elk and smaller moose wit correct shot placement.
I guess it matters on each person, I like wood and blued wood, another guy might like AR with a large objective scope.
Yup. Like I stated earlier , it's a personal choice , not which is
" better". Of course there are some who are going to say that is wrong .....
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pete dobinson
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- Courtenay BC.
It's called the snatch or latch.
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- Southern Vancouver Island
I put together a straight pull Grendel a few years ago. It's a bit more specialized so probably wouldn't fit the versatility requirements of an ultimate deer rifle theway blakey boys rifle does. But my rifle is accurate and I would use it on deer to about 300 yards.
I would take 3 of those over a RAR build any day. The straight line of stock comb to barrel reduces felt recoil impulse and muzzle flip when shooting and there be tons of AR accessories out there to build up one's own "ultimate deer rifle." I've got 3 RAR units to dink with (300 BLK, 350 Legend & 450 BM) and would've gone the AR style platform if it weren't for the anti-AR crap pushed by the media & legislators.
Good build Gatehouse.
This thread inspired me to look again at "Hunting the Whitetail Deer" from 1960, the author concluded the Marlin 336A in 35 Remington was the best deer rifle.
Of course the 6mm ARC hits harder, shoots flatter and has less recoil that the 6.5 Grendel, so the Grendel is not the Ultimate.
Of course the 6mm ARC hits harder, shoots flatter and has less recoil that the 6.5 Grendel, so the Grendel is not the Ultimate.
I would take 3 of those over a RAR build any day. The straight line of stock comb to barrel reduces felt recoil impulse and muzzle flip when shooting and there be tons of AR accessories out there to build up one's own "ultimate deer rifle." I've got 3 RAR units to dink with (300 BLK, 350 Legend & 450 BM) and would've gone the AR style platform if it weren't for the anti-AR crap pushed by the media & legislators.
Good build Gatehouse.
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I wouldn't say it's an ultimate deer rifle by any means- it wouldn't check all my boxes for that, but with a few mods it could (like a longer barrel for more velocity for longer shots and a slightly different stock for better fit for the longer shots)
I built it to have a short as possible rifle for hunting in the thick coastal timber where most shots are less than 50 yards, but also capable of reaching out in some of the clearings and mountain slopes. It does extra duties as a handy rifle for livestock predators (day or night) and as a great gun when going for hikes in the woods. With a good 2 point sling you can basically slide it over and tuck it under your armpit and not worry about it until you need to worry- and then it is very fast to action, it can be pulled up, aimed and fired in an instant.
I view it somewhat like an evolution of a classic "woods gun" like a short barrel lever action but with more distance capabilities, better ballistics and faster to get on target and shoot.
Oh yeah..SHELL SHUCKER
I've got 5 RAR rifles, all .223. 3 are the 16" barrel "Ranch" version and 2 are the 20" barrel "Predator" rifles. These are mostly range toys but I wouldn't mind taking them out coyote hunting. I probably wouldn't take a RAR on a backcountry hunt unless that's all I could afford.
They aren't the most refined rifles but they are pretty accurate out of the box. 2 of the Ranch models broke the bolt release button so I was not happy about that. But that was also after well over 10K rounds each and I bought them for 600 bucks each so maybe not so big of a deal. I'm still waiting for parts for those, in the meantime we have 3 others to play with.
In the summer we used one if the predators for some longer distance shooting and had no problem whacking a 8" gong at 625 yards with 75gr Hornady HPBT ammo, from a bipod and no rear bag.
I have zero experience with any RAR chambered for other cartridges, although I think I recall you had some problems with your 350? I guess in a way the RAR are like many Savage rifles - Accurate Junk
But building a straight pull isn't too hard for anyone that has a bit of knowledge of guns and has a decent tool shed. It's mostly assembling parts and there are only a few tricky steps. It's kind of fun, too.
I've got 5 RAR rifles, all .223. 3 are the 16" barrel "Ranch" version and 2 are the 20" barrel "Predator" rifles. These are mostly range toys but I wouldn't mind taking them out coyote hunting. I probably wouldn't take a RAR on a backcountry hunt unless that's all I could afford.
They aren't the most refined rifles but they are pretty accurate out of the box. 2 of the Ranch models broke the bolt release button so I was not happy about that. But that was also after well over 10K rounds each and I bought them for 600 bucks each so maybe not so big of a deal. I'm still waiting for parts for those, in the meantime we have 3 others to play with.
In the summer we used one if the predators for some longer distance shooting and had no problem whacking a 8" gong at 625 yards with 75gr Hornady HPBT ammo, from a bipod and no rear bag.
I have zero experience with any RAR chambered for other cartridges, although I think I recall you had some problems with your 350? I guess in a way the RAR are like many Savage rifles - Accurate Junk
But building a straight pull isn't too hard for anyone that has a bit of knowledge of guns and has a decent tool shed. It's mostly assembling parts and there are only a few tricky steps. It's kind of fun, too.
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The torch is for those pesky ultimate ditch donkeys.
Find one lol, one day it will be a split hair away from the Grendel. For now it’s fictional.
That 336 in 35Remington would be 2nd to none for some deer hunting depending on the hunting situation as long as a lever action suits the shooter. I'd choose that every time over a zippy small caliber magnum for stand hunting.
There is no rifle/chambering that will check off ALL the boxes and thus there is no ULTIMATE. Some check some, and others check others. None check all.
I've got one like that. Internet photo provided as an example only.
https://gunvalues.gundigest.com/husqvarna/6465/model-4100-lightweight/
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- Southern Vancouver Island
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I wouldn't say it's an ultimate deer rifle by any means- it wouldn't check all my boxes for that, but with a few mods it could (like a longer barrel for more velocity for longer shots and a slightly different stock for better fit for the longer shots)
I built it to have a short as possible rifle for hunting in the thick coastal timber where most shots are less than 50 yards, but also capable of reaching out in some of the clearings and mountain slopes. It does extra duties as a handy rifle for livestock predators (day or night) and as a great gun when going for hikes in the woods. With a good 2 point sling you can basically slide it over and tuck it under your armpit and not worry about it until you need to worry- and then it is very fast to action, it can be pulled up, aimed and fired in an instant.
I view it somewhat like an evolution of a classic "woods gun" like a short barrel lever action but with more distance capabilities, better ballistics and faster to get on target and shoot.
I concur with your findings fer sure and years ago, I converted a couple of M1 carbines to straight pull by welding up the gas piston assy' so as to keep them as non restricted rifles back then. I got numerous deer with them and a host of rabbits, squirrels and raccoons. Most of my shots on critters were inside 100 yds. Pity we can't have M1's now unless they be D-wats. Fookin' Socialist bastards.
I find the straight pull bolt rifles being offered over the years be of larger dimensions & weight than needed & way overpriced in many cases. I ain't fond of
having to back me face up a bit to avoid contact with the rear of the bolt when working the action in a fast folow-up shot situation. A straight pull rifle
based on an auto receiver like the AR or M1 types best suit me needs. The bonus with these being a spring assisted bolt return.
I’m thinking maybe a Blr lightweight stainless TD 308win with a Leopold 2.5 or similar scope. Just over 7lbs? Compact enough, but can still reach out there. Ammo availability and variety should be good. Recoil reduced loads for wife or kids in factory loads. I’m thinking about adding one to the safe to see how I like it.
