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i've heard horror stories of people flying somewhere and not being able to bring bullets, i just prefer to be able to buy them anywhere... also to me it means it is a popular enough round that it will be "a-round"
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If you fly,you can bring ammunition with you anywhere in Canada or the U.S.A. that you can bring your gun,and many other places as well.I hunted in the U.S.A. several times with the 7mmstw which certainly isn't common,and I was able to bring ammunition wherever I flew.You can even bring bullets with you if you insist,but I prefer to load my bullets at home and take loaded ammunition with me on my hunts.:D
As for the 257roberts,several companies still load for it,though the 25-06 is much more popular.
 
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People always worry about running out of ammo. If you are paranoid about it, pack a box in your duffle bag, another box in the glove compartment, and a third in your rifle case.;)

The most popular round, widely available, under .277, is the .243 Winchester, but I wouldn't be doing a fly-in moose hunt with it...
 
People always worry about running out of ammo. If you are paranoid about it, pack a box in your duffle bag, another box in the glove compartment, and a third in your rifle case.
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And then there are those people that won't own a gun with a detachable magazine,because they are scared that they will lose it.:runaway:
 
Soapbox time...

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This reg is HUGELY misunderstood, especially by new hunters/shooters. It's actually quite simple and probably made a certain amount of sense when introduced 50 years ago. In certain heavily populated areas of Ontario, you cannot use a rifle to hunt deer/big game. Shotgun/bow/muzzleloader only. Simple so far? In these places, I expect in an effort to keep people from using heavy rifles in the old days, one may not hunt small game with a rifle of larger calibre than .275. No one can adequately explain it; I always thought it was so that when the game warden caught someone with a .303 or .30-30, he knew they were poaching big game. Smaller rounds like the .25-20 and .25-35 were likely looked at a bit more as coyote/groundhog rifles in those days.
Regardless, for some reason, people misread and therefore misunderstand this clearly written and straightforward regulation that affects perhaps a tenth of one percent of the land mass of Ontario. Go figure.
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When I commented about this, maybe I didn't make my point properly, but what I was commenting on was the general difficulty and obvious hostility toward hunters/shooters in Ontario.

When I've been in the province trying to gain shooting supplies to take back to the territory, I'm not sure if I can describe this correctly, but you can feel in the air a disdain for the hunter/shooter. It might not be from the person serving you, but it's there for some reason. When you ask at the Walmart if they sell ammunition the worker looks at you like your a crazy looking to do a school shooting... When you tell someone at the camping store the tent you are looking at is for camping in the Tundra to hunt caribou, they regard you as a savage of some type. And my favorite, at Le Barons in Ottawa... they get your name, address and get you to sign a ledger to buy ammunition! Not a gun... Ammunition!! When I asked why I had to sign, they didn't know, but wouldn't sell to me if I didn't provide my private information. This is definitely Liberal Country. :runaway:

And this comes down to regulations that make no sense. I understand a Shotgun/Bow/Muzzleloader zone. But requiring a gun under .260?

Personally man, I'd get a .257 Weatherby.... that bucks the spirit of the regulation anyway.

Listen, I'm sorry in advance if I start a "Flame On", but as I'm very passionate about shooting and hunting, these absurd laws drive me crazy. They are such obvious attempts at eroding hunting/shooting rights it kills me. Besides, most hunting accidents are with shotguns... not rifles.

Peace out man.
 
Rem 7600 in 243. Leupold quick release bases/rings so you can use your irons quickly if needed.

You pick the scope.
 
I'm always open to calibers and just look for a good deal in a gun that I like...
So anything in .243 /.6mm /.25-06 /.7mm08 /.260 /.257 would do just fine.
Personaly I dont think caliber matters that much from 243 to 30-06
 
"...must be under .260 bore diameter..." freezer filler, the silly calibre restrictions have nothing to do with the bore diameter. As daft as it sounds, and is, it's the cartridge name that matters. A .270 Win is fine and is named in some places. Despite the bullet diameter of .277". Logic has nothing to do with it. And it's not all of Southern Ontario.
Any .308 based cartridge will do(think .243), but you neglected to give us a budget. How much money do you want to spend? And don't be taken in by any rifle that has the word 'tactical' in its name. "Tactical" is a marketing term only.
"...a lever 30/30 would fit the bill..." Nope. Bigger than .270 cal.
 
Ontario calibre restrictions.:bsFlag:

I don't understand how a a 117 grain .257 bullet traveling @ approx 3100 feet/second (2497 fl/lbs @ muzzle)is less lethal that a 130 grain .277 bullet travelling @ approx 3000 fps (2598 fl/lbs @ muzzle).

The only diffence is 2 /100 of an inch dia, and 100 ft / lbs.

You guys live in the best province ever.
 
Pick yourself up a Remington 700 in 25-06 if you absolutely need to be under .260

Shoot Nosler Partition 120 grain for your Big Game and go to 85 - 100 for every thing else.

It is a chocked down 30-06 casing and has everything you will want.

SPEED and PUNCH for whatever you are shooting at.

Most important is always shot PLACEMENT!

If not a great shot then wait until next time. It will present itself and make you a better hunter and shooter for it.

REM
 
FF; If you want to stick to ammo. "available anywhere" stick to the .243 Win. it's probably the most commom below .270 ammo. available other than .22 RF. A .243 with a 100 gr bullet is more than adequate for dear. Lighter loadings are available for groudhogs etc. I think I understand the .270 limit, it is not intended for areas where you can hunt deer with a rifle but where you can't eg. only where there is a shotgun, bow / ml. season for deer. You can use up to a .270 for varmints / small game in these same areas. I'm not sure but I think the no calibre size limit starts in Huron County and goes north, I'd have to check the Regs. to be sure.

As far as rifle goes that is a personal choice at best but if coin is an issue and you want new, a Rem. 700 / Ruger deserve a look. --- John303.
 
One that fist your criteria is the Remington model 7, in ,243win; I had a short barreled .243 though, and be prepared for loud equal to a magnum withy a muzzle break.
Mike
 
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