Ultimate lightweigh coyote rifle!

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I've had this in my head for a while and finally got it together. Started as a .223 VTR. It now sports:

Proofresearch 223 20" carbon wrapped match grade stainless barrel 1/8 twist varmint contour
Mcmillan HTG with edge fill
leupole VXIII 4.5-14x40 with M1 dials on talley ext low lightweights
factory trigger smith tuned to 2.0lbs
accushot bipod (mtd on weaver rail)

action trued, and target crown

The whole works weighs 8lbs 2ozs

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Had an HS precision stock on it, HATED it. Loving the mcmillan now. Shooting hornady 75gr steel match today, kinda windy was holding .75 at 100yards. Hoping that comes in a bit as I get her broke in. I notice the gun jumps more at this weight than when it was about 3 lbs heavier. Still it was an expensive 3lbs. $900 barrel, $650 stock etc.
 
"Ultimate lightweight" at 8.2 pounds? Hmmm. Beautiful rifle and I bet is really shoots, but IMHO the trigger is better suited to bench and target work. 2 pounds is light for a rifle that will be used in the field with gloves on.

ANYWAY..... That is one very nice rifle.
 
Did McMillan install the front rail or a smith? I didn't think front rails were an option on Edge stocks- for the same reason you couldn't have adjustable cheep pieces.
 
That is a beautiful setup you got there! (I love the look of carbon wrapped barrels)

Picking up my lightweight varminter tommorrow, can't wait.
 
shredder0 said:
"Ultimate lightweight" at 8.2 pounds? Hmmm. Beautiful rifle and I bet is really shoots, but IMHO the trigger is better suited to bench and target work. 2 pounds is light for a rifle that will be used in the field with gloves on.

ANYWAY..... That is one very nice rifle.
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I would have to disagree with you there shredder0, that is quite light when you consider that includes the scope, rail and bipod, especially for a varminter. Also, a 2 pound trigger is perfect in my opinion, consider that you're aiming at a 4 inch kill zone (coyote) and shooting up to 300 yards and possibly beyond, it helps to have a light crisp trigger. Just my opinion though.
 
shredder0 said:
"Ultimate lightweight" at 8.2 pounds? Hmmm. Beautiful rifle and I bet is really shoots, but IMHO the trigger is better suited to bench and target work. 2 pounds is light for a rifle that will be used in the field with gloves on.

ANYWAY..... That is one very nice rifle.
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I totally agree with you. Trigger pull in the 10-20 pound range is better suited for a hunting rifle.:rolleyes:
 
lonely_wolf said:
Did McMillan install the front rail or a smith? I didn't think front rails were an option on Edge stocks- for the same reason you couldn't have adjustable cheep pieces.
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The rail is a weaver that attaches to a sling stud, I have a sling stud in the flush cup. That's how it was supposed to work anyway. In reality the flush cup pulled out of the stock like butter, got epoxied back in with a flat head screw through he hex hole which holds on the rail. Not what I had in mind to bugger up a $600+ stock, but the "edge fill" is basically compressed powder. Excellent for weight but not so much strength. On top of that I had clearance issues in the barrel channel and had to remove material (used a mask was careful with the carbon outer layer), which I would say weakened the rigidity of the forearm slightly. I have good clearance now and can slide a pc of paper between the barrel and the stock when I have pressure on the bipod, so looks like everything is ok. I would say the barrel is oversize to the varmint profile. Not sure if I could send it back to McMillan and have them re do the channel in sendero profile or not....

Ps the barrel is pretty old but was not mounted on a rifle. It is from when proofresearch was ABS barrels. The people and the equipment were moved to the new company. Not sure if they are exporting or not. Magnum research also makes t carbon barrels at a lower cost, not sure if they import, but they make a ton of 10/22 wrapped barrels that can be had in Canada. The abs/proofresearch barrels are supposed to be wrapped differently to allow heat to escape better. I have read that they are marketing the technology heavily towards high rate automatic fire and supposedly their laboratory they have equipment to "document the proof" of MUCH extended barrel life.
 
shredder0 said:
"Ultimate lightweight" at 8.2 pounds? Hmmm.

ANYWAY..... That is one very nice rifle.
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I realize there are light rifles with factory profiles, and even lighter fluted barrels. I wanted a semi-precision rifle with at least a varmint profile that could hold up to a prairie dog hunt or some serious target sessions. The barrel was 1lb lighter than the vtr triangular barrel, not sure how that would compare to a full round bbl with varmint profile but I'm sure there are lighter profiles out there for less $$. The weight savings would be more significant with a longer bbl since the blank is not thinned much around the chamber.
 
Your flush cup pulled out? You should send it back to McMillan. I'd be really curious to hear what they say.

I had an HTG Edge with a flush cup up front. I used one of the flush cup stud inserts to mount a Harris and shot it for a good year or two with no issues. I have an A1-3 Edge now with the same set up and haven't had any come out. McMillan uses a different fill to reinforce the areas where cups and studs are. I always figured (never asked) that they didn't do the adj. Butts on Edge's because it would require so much more of the heavier fill it would make ordering and paying for an Edge redundant- That's why I was surprised they would mount a rail.


“Ultimate” is what is throwing everyone off. It is lightweight for a Tactical or Varminter, but no where bear “Ultimate.” Have you seen those unicorn stocks?
 
lonely_wolf said:
Your flush cup pulled out? You should send it back to McMillan. I'd be really curious to hear what they say.

I had an HTG Edge with a flush cup up front. I used one of the flush cup stud inserts to mount a Harris and shot it for a good year or two with no issues. I have an A1-3 Edge now with the same set up and haven't had any come out. McMillan uses a different fill to reinforce the areas where cups and studs are. I always figured (never asked) that they didn't do the adj. Butts on Edge's because it would require so much more of the heavier fill it would make ordering and paying for an Edge redundant- That's why I was surprised they would mount a rail.


“Ultimate” is what is throwing everyone off. It is lightweight for a Tactical or Varminter, but no where bear “Ultimate.” Have you seen those unicorn stocks?
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The HTG is the one I bought from you. Remember I said it looked fine, but the front flush cup seemed to be installed on an angle. I keep the pivot snug on my bipod, and 2 twists on uneven ground to level the cross hair and out it pulled.

When I said ultimate, I meant at least to me. Ultimate in terms of high tech, not like anything you can buy off the shelf. I would not compare it to a tika T3. Maybe if the varmint version was that light, but that would be over 10lbs easy with scope and bipod.
 
Sorry mate. I didn't recognize you. McMillan installed it at a bit of an angle. As I said, I never had any issues and used it regularly with a loaded Harris. My new one is the same. When I ordered them I confirmed with McMillan I would be using it repeatedly with a loaded bipod. Each time they said it would be fine. Again, that's unfortunate it tore out. Makes me wonder about my new one (!). I'm going to call McMillan tomorrow and ask them about this.

Despite my comment, I agree with you on lightweight. I think my rifle's light at 11lbs.
 
6 years ago i did buy for 100.00 a little 223 NEF Superlight from a guy in need of money, at the time i did not think much about it, in the winter we were in ou house near l 'Orignal ONT and so many coyotes were at the end of the field, only had a 4X on it so i went to Ottawa and i bought a Cheap Tasco 6X24X40 and a cheap bipod.... After installing everything i went on the fringe of the field and at 250 metres there was a pit sand with cheap 45 gr WWB i could shoot under 4 inch at 250 metres so i left it this way, that winter i shoot 9 coyotes with that little cheap rig and 17 more the followings years, i will still use it this winter, i may take a crack at one with my Icon Creedmoor 6.5... This 223 rig barely weight over 6 pound fully dressed.... The money you invest is sometime small but the fun factor is BIG... Cheers. JP.
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When i do go cut my wood and it is within a 100 metres on each side i switch to a backup optic a Sparc on the 223, aquisition is a lot faster in the thick, you never know when one can pop up, they is so many, it is like a pest... Cheers. JP.
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