ultimate Yote gun? 223? 204? 22-250?

I would go 243 because you can hunt big game with it too.
I do have a .223 which certainly does the job, but it's disappointing that I can't use the same rifle for big game.
Barring 243, I vote 22-250.
 
Wookie totally I agree which is why I also have a 6mm-284 I just wish mine was a 1 - 10" twist instead of a 1 1-12"?

Is that a 70gr Ballistic Tip?
 
95gr BT. Mine is 1-10.

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If I had a 1 - 10" twist I would be shooting bonded 90gr Swift Scirroco's for everything (presuming I could get an accurate load that is)...
 
Of the three choices, I would take the 22-250, hands down. It has more retained velocity once you get out past 350 than do the others. That being said, I don't even own a 22-250 right now, because I am a dyed -in-the-wool 220 Swift junkie, and would use it by preference over any of the others mentioned. [Throat erosion is a non-issue, in my opinion] 55 Ballistic Tips started at 3900+ do a jig job on song dogs. If I felt I needed more at long range, then my heavy 6mm Remington with the 55 or 70 Ballistic Tip would get the nod. Out of the 28" tube, the 55 makes 4200 and the 70, 3850. Forget about pelts on 50% of these animals, though. Regards, Eagleye.
 
Apparently a .260 with 85 grain bullets (speer) makes quite a mess, I'm planning to find out soon. Also as mentioned above if you got a little bigger than .22 you can get into reasonable deer cartridges aswell.
 
Educate me: I thought the pelt damage is more of a factor of the bullet structure than caliber. I think it completely doesn't matter if the entry hole .2 or .27 inches, but if the .27 expands just a little it makes way less damage on the exit side than the .2 fragmenting.

If the above is true (I'm not sure, it is just speculation) then a larger flat shooting (eg 270wsm) caliber with non-expanding (or a bit expanding) bullet would be the optimal caliber. Is this true or not?
 
Bullet construction is definitely the largest factor, the only other thing that you have to consider is that the bullet's momentum also makes a huge difference. If the bullet has little momentum, bones and fragmentation may cause the bullet (or pieces of the bullet) to stop inside the animal without exiting.

If the bullet has a lot of momentum (.270), then even a non-expanding bullet will exit, and it will also make a huge mess if it hits bone.
 
If you watch "predator Quest" with Les Johnson on T.V. every time a coyote runs after it is shot he says it was his .204 Axiom. When he bang flops em he says it was his 22.250.

.223 I won't shoot another bush mutt with one as I got rid of it for a 22.250 due to poor kill performance.

I'll; just sit back and wait now for someone to tell me that a .223 can kill a coyote in the middle of the next province.
 
Actually it could but... :D

Anyway my light weight 21" barreled s/s T/C Contender carbine in 223 Rem is my calling rifle, I shot the last coyote I called in @ 40 yards while it was sitting down facing directly towards me hit it center of the chest with a 40gr V-Max with a muzzle velocity of 3400fps it was a bang flop no exit hole.

Next day and for the rest of the week I was in Alberta none of the coyotes would come into my call and would sit out 400 - 800 windy yards away laughing at me, ohhh I wish I had also packed my 22-250 and 6mm-284 with me on that trip so I could reach out and touch them...

Once again the 22-250 is my favorite all round predator hunting cartridge.
 
roccoskeet said:
If you watch "predator Quest" with Les Johnson on T.V. every time a coyote runs after it is shot he says it was his .204 Axiom. When he bang flops em he says it was his 22.250.
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Oh, on TV, then it must be true..:D
He will tell you what ever the people paying him tell him to, don't kid yourself.
I have shot a stack of coyotes with the .204, none ran off after a hit. I have also had great success with a .220 swift and a 22-250. No wind? A .17 Rem is a lot of fun too.
Better yet, turn off the TV and go try one yourself, giving advice based on what you seen on a TV show is kinda odd.
 
Anyone use a 257 Roberts?. I just picked up an older Ruger 77 which I have yet to try...I thought it would be a neat small deer rifle for my son, but of course these eastern coyotes are the size of small whitetails...
 
applegrower said:
Anyone use a 257 Roberts?. I just picked up an older Ruger 77 which I have yet to try...I thought it would be a neat small deer rifle for my son, but of course these eastern coyotes are the size of small whitetails...
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M father in law does, his is on the M77 platform too, he is very happy with the rifle.
 
Pyd said:
Oh, on TV, then it must be true..:D
He will tell you what ever the people paying him tell him to, don't kid yourself.
I have shot a stack of coyotes with the .204, none ran off after a hit. I have also had great success with a .220 swift and a 22-250. No wind? A .17 Rem is a lot of fun too.
Better yet, turn off the TV and go try one yourself, giving advice based on what you seen on a TV show is kinda odd.
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I use a 222 or switch over to a 22-250 when yotes start to hold up at 300 plus. Hunting partner went to a 20 tactical...basically a 204... I have to say the 20 calibres kill like nothing I have ever seen. 22-250's, 243,etc shoot through them and many times they run or spin and yulp for a few seconds. With the 20's the yotes just pile up and twitch a bit.
 
.22-250 to 500 yards
.243 to as far as you can hit them
Anything larger is unnecessary, but fun :)

This is assuming the use of good, frangible varmint bullets.

M12shooter,

Load up your .22-250 with the 50gr V-Max going 3700fps and your .243 with the 55gr BT and they'll stop spinning and yelping. I've only ever had 1 coyote that ran away after being hit with a 50gr V-Max, most just drop.
 
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