Ultimax 100 Saw/lmg

That's amazing how the guy can control that SAW with only one hand. I wonder why they are not being used by more military units? It would be even economic to have SAW that can utilize regular M4/M16 magazines in the field. Nice. I would like to see one in different stock, though.
 
imagine_74714 said:
That's amazing how the guy can control that SAW with only one hand. I wonder why they are not being used by more military units? It would be even economic to have SAW that can utilize regular M4/M16 magazines in the field. Nice. I would like to see one in different stock, though.

they weren't on the market when the SAW was being purchased. And as for loading the drum, well a hundred round spring is going to be stiff, isn't it? the marine corp feels it's preferable to a belt flaping around, and it saves weight over the belt to boot......
 
It looks extremely controllable. I havent heard much about its system, but doesnt it utilize some sort of fandangled action that eats up alot of the recoil?
 
imagine_74714 said:
It would be even economic to have SAW that can utilize regular M4/M16 magazines in the field.

The Minimi/SAW/C9 does accept belt and M16 mags. When it comes to winning firefights I hope the price of disintegrating links wouldn't enter into the equation!

Seems very controllable, but I'd hate to give up 200 round belts for 100rnd mags.
 
It is my understanding the new M249's don't even have the mag feed capability.


I've always liked the Ultimax, it's a great little gun. May have taken a while but hopefully it will get some good use.
 
You can swap a 100 round mag faster then you can reload a belt, and the ultimax is being configured to take AR mags in an emergency, same as the C-9 did. The other advantage of the 100 rnd drum is that it will feed from any angle, while running or moving sharply , in short it is a much more reliable feed system for a close support weapon then belts...... For the sustained fire role, belts can't be beat, but thats not what a SAW is for....
 
Chuck3436 said:
It looks extremely controllable. I havent heard much about its system, but doesnt it utilize some sort of fandangled action that eats up alot of the recoil?
Nothing fancy as far as its technology goes.Uses long recoil.This means that the bolt has more space in the receiver to travel rearward and doesn't impact the rear of the receiver,the Automatic shotgun known as the AA-12 uses this type of system also,as do some antique machine guns . Earlier versions were without a quick change barrel but the newer ones have this feature.
Its been used by both Croats and Serbs during the civil war in the early 90's.
 
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I read somewhere that the drum mag used with the Ultimax 100 is different than those C-mag. It looks like there is difference there, but I'm not quite sure as to design itself. Doesn anybody know about this?
 
The Ultimax, in it's original configuration, uses a proprietary 100 rd drum and doesn't accept mags. The Marines want the magwell modified so that it will take the C-Mag or regular M16 mags.

Why they want to swap out a drum that works, for one that is supposed to be less than reliable is beyond me.
 
Leg said:
The Ultimax, in it's original configuration, uses a proprietary 100 rd drum and doesn't accept mags. The Marines want the magwell modified so that it will take the C-Mag or regular M16 mags.

Why they want to swap out a drum that works, for one that is supposed to be less than reliable is beyond me.

The drum is being retained, but the mag well interface on it is being altered to fit the stanag pattern. of course this should also mean it will then fit AR's as well, in the states of course........
 
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