Ultralight rifle blind magazine

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redneck09

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Hi,

First time posting on the gunsmithing forum.

Wondering how hard it would be to inlet a blind box magazine into a stock. Im interested in doing what kimber does with the mountain ascents.IMG_9209.jpeg

Like how sleek it is. I have a savage 110 I want to put into a composite stock. I have some bedding and inletting experience but not a ton.
I am not a gunsmith.

Would I be able to strip down a savage magazine and set the box and spring into the stock with compound? I realize I would have to get the height and angle correct for feeding.

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Let me know what you think. Could be a silly idea could be a fun project.
 
Can't see why a two position feed magazine couldn't be converted into a blind magazine. A single position feed wouldn't be a good choice.
The shell can just be trapped in the inlet, up against the receiver. Remington blind magazine casings are not bonded in place.
 
tiriaq said:
Can't see why a two position feed magazine couldn't be converted into a blind magazine. A single position feed wouldn't be a good choice.
The shell can just be trapped in the inlet, up against the receiver. Remington blind magazine casings are not bonded in place.
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Sorry could you elaborate where a single position feed wouldn’t be a good choice.

I am guessing a centre feed qualifies as a single position feed?
 
redneck09 said:
Sorry could you elaborate where a single position feed wouldn’t be a good choice.

I am guessing a centre feed qualifies as a single position feed?
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redneck09 said:
Sorry could you elaborate where a single position feed wouldn’t be a good choice.

I am guessing a centre feed qualifies as a single position feed?
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You won’t be able to load the rifle, unless it it polymer like some of the ruger magazines.
 
A single position feed has the round pushed down and in from the front. Double feed - straight down and in.
 
rgv said:
You won’t be able to load the rifle, unless it it polymer like some of the ruger magazines.
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Good point!

Thanks for pointing that out.

Somehow never thought of that. I guess I would have to locate a stagger feed magazine. Actually might have one in the deep recesses of my gear/reloading room.
 
How is the bottom of the 110 receiver configured? Would the rails feed from a magazine box without lips? Often single position feed magazines can be used with a receiver that is machined to feed from an internal box.
 
tiriaq said:
How is the bottom of the 110 receiver configured? Would the rails feed from a magazine box without lips? Often single position feed magazines can be used with a receiver that is machined to feed from an internal box.
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I’m gonna have to take some measurements when I get home.
 
Doing my research and folks on the savage shooters forum are saying that the centrefeed magazines are actually designed to be top fed (magazine remains in the rifle and rounds are forced through the spring steel feed lips). In fact the newer model 12s have a blind magazine with a centerfeed magazine I believe.

Good news is that apparently the feed lips don’t really wear out.

Bad news is many people are on these forums complaining about how bad it is to reload this style of savage. Apparently it takes a LOT of pressure to force the round through the lips.

Gonna try and top feed my spare magazine and see how bad it is.
 
Huh....no way I can top feed a mag in my Kimber Hunter
Good on you though, saves trying to fit something else in

I was going to suggest a box mag from a Browning ABoltII might fit in a mag space then any stock could be converted by loosing the bottom metal and crafting a rigid bottom
 
Buy a Remington 700 ADL. Everyone makes stocks for 700's.

The 700 ADL carries beautifully... I had one for years before I went to a detachable mag as I was in and out of the truck more than carry.
 
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redneck09 said:
I would have to get a composite stock made from stockys or mpi. I’m not sure if they would agree to make it without the opening in the bottom for the magazine.
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Get one from Wildcat Composites in Edmonton. I think they might be the lightest on the market. Years ago I handled a titanium 308 from Prairie Gunworks in Winnipeg. 18" pencil barrel, Ti action, and a Wildcat stock. I believe it was sub 5lbs. It had the makings of a great little rifle.
 
BigUglyMan said:
Get one from Wildcat Composites in Edmonton. I think they might be the lightest on the market. Years ago I handled a titanium 308 from Prairie Gunworks in Winnipeg. 18" pencil barrel, Ti action, and a Wildcat stock. I believe it was sub 5lbs. It had the makings of a great little rifle.
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As I stated above they don’t make one for the savage 110 action. Or I certainly would. I have emailed and asked them a couple of times over the last few years.

I have tikkas and a m70 that I could put in one but that little savage is too good and it’s all I want to hunt with.

I abandoned the idea of a blind mag on this rifle. Another build down the road probably. Or I will just buy a kimber.
 
BigUglyMan said:
Get one from Wildcat Composites in Edmonton. I think they might be the lightest on the market. Years ago I handled a titanium 308 from Prairie Gunworks in Winnipeg. 18" pencil barrel, Ti action, and a Wildcat stock. I believe it was sub 5lbs. It had the makings of a great little rifle.
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Brown used to make one called "the Pounder" . Don't know if they're still in business though. - dan
 
The folks above are telling you some good stuff, which will save you time and money.

Remington and Savage are likely the easiest to find the "blind" type mag well you're looking for.

Some rifle's bolt guide rails will not work properly to reliably feed cartridges from the magazine to the chamber.

I've taken many Rem 700s and a few Winchester Mod 70 rifles out of blind mag stocks and put them into DM or dropping floorplate type stocks.

Depending on where you shop for parts, the magwell, follower and spring will be available from Numrich Gun Parts or likely any local gunsmith with good practices will have the parts you need stashed in a baggie or in a bin. They don't throw them away.

I fully understand why you want to go to a blind mag. I had a few mishaps over the years with losing DMs, out of carelessness or whatever.

Once, it was my fault for just leaving it on the bush plane after it fell out of the scabbard pocket, but luckily, it returned a couple of days later when the pilot came back after taking a couple of other hunters to their camp. Also, I had the foresight to have a spare mag, but they don't grow on trees, and in the case of the rifle I was using, it was from a Winchester model made in Canada and long discontinued.

One was lost on a horseback hunt and another on a quad trip.

After that, no more DMs for me, now, it's either swing floor plates or blind mags.

Just one less thing to go wrong on an expensive hunt.

If you already have a rifle that you want to convert, just remember, you may have to do work too it and may not be able to switch it back.

Sell it, or trade it for what you want.
 
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