Ultrasonic vs. Tumbler case cleaning

I've read this entire thread and others and I am more confused than ever on which method to go with! I'd like my brass to be super shiny but I don't want to have to dry it out. I think I am just going to go with a tumbler for now...worst case scenario I put it up on the EE down the road.
 
I've read this entire thread and others and I am more confused than ever on which method to go with! I'd like my brass to be super shiny but I don't want to have to dry it out. I think I am just going to go with a tumbler for now...worst case scenario I put it up on the EE down the road.
For super shiny you want clean corn cob and a good polish. I use PEEK, but nu-finish and turtle wax also work well. PEEK just seems faster for me.
 
SS vrs Vibe

just thought I'd post this for looks

I grabbed the nastiest piece of brass I had (thought it was a 303 ), added it to my load of 100 223 range brass, ss + dawn + lemishine tumbled for 4hrs
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had some same lot 223brass (100) put in a Vibe with corncob & cleaner , vibed for 4hrs

the pic with 3 brass , the vibe brass is on the right. notice primer pockets
the nasty brass was actually a 30/30

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I use both ultrasonic and tumble. The ultrasonic does a great job of cleaning the cases and the tumbler (walnut media)does a great job of shining it up afterwards. Looks good as new when its all done.

I'm picky and like shiny brass for reloading for .45acp and .308.

Troy
 
I dont see significant differences between the two methods shown in the picture, other than the wet tumbled are not ready to reload after the 4 hours and the dry tumbled are.....
 
I dont see significant differences between the two methods shown in the picture, other than the wet tumbled are not ready to reload after the 4 hours and the dry tumbled are.....

difference is the primer pockets.....and inside case looks just as clean + the wet cases are shinier. SS is obviously better if u want your brass completely clean

Iam down to 3.5 hrs in wet , will keep shortening time @ 1/2 hr till the pockets arent cleaned.

edit- now down to 2.0 hrs all clean (75 -308 casings)
 
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For super shiny you want clean corn cob and a good polish. I use PEEK, but nu-finish and turtle wax also work well. PEEK just seems faster for me.

I've been settled on corn cob with a once around the tumbler with Peek mousse every couple of loads for approx 10 years now. Great combo for clean and shiny brass. The Peek mousse is getting harder and harder to find. Where are you getting the Peek from CanAm?

O'Kelly's Boys
 
If you don't have a tumbling setup already, and have to buy all new gear to get into the game, I would suggest biting the bullet and buy the Stainless media setup. Sure, the barrier to entry is a little higher. It costs more. But the operational costs over the long term are nil. The rotary tumbler should last pretty much forever, and the media should also last forever. The only consumables are lemishine ($4) and dish soap ($4).

Now, if you already have a vibratory tumbler setup, there is really not much reason to upgrade, unless you want to. The captial costs are lower, and the vibratory system is readily available everywhere. But, vibratory tumblers are notorious for burning out quickly. Also, the media will need to be changed and discarded routinely. Also, all the carbon/lead residue from the casings gets loaded into the media, so after a while you get a toxic load of media. Something to consider when you are breathing in walnut dust.

Both systems have pros and cons. Stainless tumbling is wet, and requires drying time. Vibratory tumbling is dry, and ready to use. This is only an issue if you have to tumble, then reload right away. If you only shoot on weekends, and can tumble on a Monday, the wet cases won't be wet on Wednesday. Further, both systems tend to plug flash holes. Stainless seems to plug flash holes less, but they seem harder to unplug compard to dry media. On the whole, it seems a wash between the two. Stainless tumbling is fast, and makes your cases very clean, inside and out. Dry media takes longer, and doesn't clean the cases as well, especially in the nooks and crannies.

Ultrasonic cleaning (a distant form of vibratory cleaning) is still fairly new for reloaders. The small capacity models you will find reasonably priced really aren't up to the task of volume case cleaning. They work great for small quantites of brass, and work great for things like gun parts (trigger groups, bolts, etc.) and other small objects (jewellry). But the less expensive models are troublesome, since they have at best a 50/50 duty cycle, when it comes to running for the length of time required to clean 100 rifle cases. I would consider ultrasonic cleaning if I was a low volume shooter (hunter) and I could also justify the cleaner for working on other small parts.

In my estimation, it comes down to economics, and your current gear setup. If you don't mind the (inital) cost of the stainless tumbling setup, I would go that route, with the only downside being the requirement to dry off the brass before reloading.
 
I dont see significant differences between the two methods shown in the picture, other than the wet tumbled are not ready to reload after the 4 hours and the dry tumbled are.....

A couple pic's are worth a couple 1000 word's.

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This one'a a 30mm cannon case.

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Thanks for quoting me, but like I said, I dont see a SIGNIFICANT difference.

Yes, the inside of the US case is clean - so what? It wont affect accuracy or the ability to reload it.

Yes, the primer pocket is spotless - so what? Again, a quick twist with the primer pocket brush (or screwdriver) and it will be ready to reload - and again, the little bit of black in there the brush doesnt get wont affect accuracy or the ability to reload it.

Yes, you have to wait for your brass to dry while I am busy cleaning primer pockets - so what?

To me the bottom line is this:
US cleaner do a VERY NICE job of cleaning the brass inside and out. Not arguing that and never was.Don't misunderstand the statement please. I think US does a GREAT job of cleaning cases. No doubt about it
Using a vibrating tumbler with Corn cob or walnut media does a nice job as well.

Will it make any SIGNIFICANT difference to how the case reloads? To case life? To accuracy? Could you tell the difference shooting US loads vs tumbled loads?
If I were to take 100 identical dirty cases and used the US to clean 50 and tumbled the other 50 then went through all the loading steps and then had 10 guys shoot 5 of each would they be able to tell me which ones were which?

Probably not
 
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