Under-indexed Barrel on New S&W 66...

B

BANNED
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Rating - 100%
241   0   0
How much trouble to fix an under indexed barrel on a new production Model 66? Unfortunately Tenda is ignoring me, dealing with Grech seems like it could be more trouble than it's worth given their reputation. I really like this gun, this is very disappointing...


 
With a right hand thread, it's over indexed. Would think that would be relatively easy to fix.

Grizz

I'm no gunsmith, I figured it would be turning to the right if you you were holding it like in the second photo I posted. It's not off much but if it has to go the other way then that seems like much more work than I thought.
 
the barrel itself is inside a barrel sleeve....the external sleave includes the front ramp and ejector shroud....
 
^ I see, so the sleeve is off then. Doesn't change the issue unfortunately. The ball detent is supposed to sit in the notch but doesn't.
 
So it makes the front sight to the left a little and the top ribs, doesn’t line up. The barrel will be straight to the cylinder,...if it wasn’t, you’d be shaving bullet. I would think, taking the barrel off, re-timing...to eye, and “looks” and your good to go, don’t forget to redo forcing cone....
Cheers

Edit...if you could remove the outer casing , you could just fix the looks and never touch the barrel,cone..etc..
 
Last edited:
I do not understand the 'sleeve' comment... it's all one piece.

Hold the barrel solidly... remove cylinder and stick a big piece of wood through the frame... slightly rotate it anti clockwise until the top rib lines up... the barrel will most likely still be tight... if it isn't remove the barrel and put a few drops of blue Loctite on the thread and tighten it so the top rib lines up and let the Loctite cure over night before shooting it.
 
I do not understand the 'sleeve' comment... it's all one piece.

Hold the barrel solidly... remove cylinder and stick a big piece of wood through the frame... slightly rotate it anti clockwise until the top rib lines up... the barrel will most likely still be tight... if it isn't remove the barrel and put a few drops of blue Loctite on the thread and tighten it so the top rib lines up and let the Loctite cure over night before shooting it.

The sleeve comment is for these new model 66 has a scandium sleeve over top of the steel barrel. Shouldn't make any difference in how it's tightened up but I don't play around with revolvers much.
 
Thanks guntech, I was hoping it would be that simple.

Hopefully it is... I once owned many Smiths... did not know about these new ones with 'sleeves'. How is the 'sleeve' attached to the barrel? Possibly the sleeve will simply turn a little. It's such a small amount...
 
"Another big change I didn't notice immediately was the two-piece barrel. The inner barrel is a rifled tube, while the outer barrel (or shroud that encloses the rifled tube) is a single unit machined with an integral ejection-rod housing, topstrap and front sight base. The inner barrel extends through the shroud with the threaded end screwed into the frame. The shroud is keyed into the frame so it can't rotate and maintains a fixed orientation. There is a shoulder inside the shroud, and as the inner barrel is screwed into the frame, it tightens the shroud against the frame. Since only the inner, threaded barrel is rotated into the frame and the shroud is keyed into a fixed orientation, there is no "clocking" of the entire barrel assembly, which could rotate the front sight out of position. The end result is a more rigid, fixed structure. The topstrap has serrations that blend in nicely with the serrations on top of the frame and rear sight-mounting tang. Serrations reduce glare which can be very useful on a working gun, particularly one that may be utilized outdoors. The bottom edge of the ejection-rod housing has been cut to receive the steel ball mounted in the yoke that provides the new/old ball-detent lockup mechanism."

ht tps://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2017/9/27/review-smith-wesson-model-66-model-69-combat-magnums/
 
"Another big change I didn't notice immediately was the two-piece barrel. The inner barrel is a rifled tube, while the outer barrel (or shroud that encloses the rifled tube) is a single unit machined with an integral ejection-rod housing, topstrap and front sight base. The inner barrel extends through the shroud with the threaded end screwed into the frame. The shroud is keyed into the frame so it can't rotate and maintains a fixed orientation. There is a shoulder inside the shroud, and as the inner barrel is screwed into the frame, it tightens the shroud against the frame. Since only the inner, threaded barrel is rotated into the frame and the shroud is keyed into a fixed orientation, there is no "clocking" of the entire barrel assembly, which could rotate the front sight out of position. The end result is a more rigid, fixed structure. The topstrap has serrations that blend in nicely with the serrations on top of the frame and rear sight-mounting tang. Serrations reduce glare which can be very useful on a working gun, particularly one that may be utilized outdoors. The bottom edge of the ejection-rod housing has been cut to receive the steel ball mounted in the yoke that provides the new/old ball-detent lockup mechanism."

ht tps://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2017/9/27/review-smith-wesson-model-66-model-69-combat-magnums/

Big reason to own older models as far as I am concerned... the changes had nothing to do with improvements in the product... it was all about reducing manufacturing costs...

I wonder how the barrel is screwed into the action through the shroud that is in place... the barrel does not extend out past the shroud. How is it gripped when torqued to the action?
 
Well, if information is previous posting is correct,there will be sheared key in there. If that gun is new, your dealer / warranty place has to be made to deal with it. I would not be fixing anything if it is "new". Refund from whomever sold it to you?? Contact manufacturer and get them involved??
 
Well, if information is previous posting is correct,there will be sheared key in there. If that gun is new, your dealer / warranty place has to be made to deal with it. I would not be fixing anything if it is "new". Refund from whomever sold it to you?? Contact manufacturer and get them involved??

Sheared key? I don't understand.

As I said in my OP Tenda is ignoring me and I really don't want to deal with the SW warranty center Grech Outdoors. I am pretty unimpressed with Tenda. They ignore all my emails so I called. The guy tried passing me off to Grech but I pushed until he asked for photos and said he'd see what he could do. I haven't heard anything since. He probably just wanted to get off the phone...
 
Back
Top Bottom