Understanding the FRT classification process.

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We have received a couple emails regarding this process so we thought it would be best to bring clarification to how this is actually done.

Every year IRUNGUNS brings thousands of firearms into Canada which are directly imported from the United States.
Every month there are a handful of firearms that do not have an FRT or have not been registered with the Canadian Firearms Program.
Most of these firearms can be registered with Inspection Services and we can obtain an FRT number using a Technical Data Package, detailed pictures which are attached to an email.
Wait a few days to a week and you have an FRT.

Every month we have one or two firearms where Inspection Services requires a sample in order to delegate a classification and FRT number.
This is a free service, its not a complicated process and it costs nothing other then some time to fill out a TDP and a shipping label for the firearm.
There is no going back and forth with the Lab as they have the firearm.

As Inspection Services offers this free service, we also offer it free of charge to all our customers who import firearms through us that do not have an FRT classification or designation.

If we receive an answer that we feel is not correct there is an appeal process which is also free.

For those who embellish the fact or exaggerate that this is a very expensive process and takes months or years of work is absurd almost as absurd as thinking you own that FRT number.
The hardest part is waiting the 120 working days for a favorable response.


The IRUNGUNS Team
 
Yup. Too many people think that because they applied for an FRT # they should be the only one allowed to sell it. This is downright laughable.

Last time I checked we still live in a free market society where companies are free to sell and customers are free to choose who they buy it from.

The more options of where I can buy something from the better. Keeps companies in check when they know they don't have a monopoly
 
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I'm not sure what BLS was expecting. I mean whats IRG supposed to do? Not offer and sell a NR gun they have in stock?

Youza.
 
jiffx2781 said:
Yup. Too many people think that because they applied for an FRT # they should be the only one allowed to sell it. This is downright laughable.

Last time I checked we still live in a free market society where companies are free to sell and customers are free to choose who they buy it from.

The more options of where I can buy something from the better. Keeps companies in check when they know they don't have a monopoly
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Yup this right here
 
jiffx2781 said:
Yup. Too many people think that because they applied for an FRT # they should be the only one allowed to sell it. This is downright laughable.

Last time I checked we still live in a free market society where companies are free to sell and customers are free to choose who they buy it from.

The more options of where I can buy something from the better. Keeps companies in check when they know they don't have a monopoly
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I don't get it. Did someone who bought gun XYZ think he had the right to keep everyone else from getting a gun of the same model? What's the story between the lines here?
 
VinnyQC said:
I don't get it. Did someone who bought gun XYZ think he had the right to keep everyone else from getting a gun of the same model? What's the story between the lines here?
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If you read Blue Lines ad and look at the yellow area it basically says don’t buy from IRG.

The most ironic part is last night IRG accidentally advertised in a thread belonging to Blue Lines area of the forum lol. It has since been corrected.
 
BLS was just making it well own that you cant get warranty work done through them if the didnt import it... makes sense. Cant expect to purchase one from Irunguns through their U.S source and expect them to do the warranty work for free. Same in reverse, cant expect Irunguns to foot the warranty costs sending it through the U.S if it was imported by by someone else...
People getting too pissy about this...
 
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Standingtall said:
BLS was just making it well own that you cant get warranty work done through them if the didnt import it... makes sense. Cant expect to purchase one from Irunguns through their U.S source and expect them to do the warranty work for free.
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yes, this is the important part.
 
Standingtall said:
BLS was just making it well own that you cant get warranty work done through them if the didnt import it... makes sense. Cant expect to purchase one from Irunguns through their U.S source and expect them to do the warranty work for free.
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Respectfully, thats not "all" BLS was doing. They were clearly taking shots at IRG as if it was unfair to them that they would sell the rifle. They were also making it sound like having submitted the gun to the lab and waiting for the FRT was somehow super difficult and involving, and that people should feel bad buying from a retailer who didn't initiate the process . Which is of course nonsense.

And for the record, you still get manufacturer's warranty through IRG.

Youza.
 
Irunguns keeps the market fair by offering access to a larger market. Imagine the mark up on prices here if we didn't have access to American pricing. We've all witnessed price gouging here.
 
Youzawhale said:
Respectfully, thats not "all" BLS was doing. They were clearly taking shots at IRG as if it was unfair to them that they would sell the rifle. They were also making it sound like having submitted the gun to the lab and waiting for the FRT was somehow super difficult and involving, and that people should feel bad buying from a retailer who didn't initiate the process . Which is of course nonsense.

And for the record, you still get manufacturer's warranty through IRG.

Youza.
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you will get warranty serviced by the distributor in the US which may or may not be more costly and complicated, probably the latter. Might also not be covered by local consumer protection laws as well.

I think that more options are always good, however you need to understand what you are getting into.
 
You are reading WAY too much into it in my opinion. And if you buy one from a dealer that sourced it from BLS, I can guarantee IRG will not warranty it. Same as if you buy on from IRG, BLS will not warranty it. BLS is the official Canadian distributor, so IRG is a grey market importer in Canada for these... its fact, get over it.
 
We are not a grey market importer, we have opened the US market to the Canadian buyer, there is a difference.

We could not warranty their firearms as we were not the original exporter of said rifle. There are exemptions within the ITAR that allow us to expedite the sold products back to the Manufacturer for warranty or repair using the same export licenses that were used in the first place. As for warranty everyone has the assumption that it is a free service. The dealer or warranty center gets paid very well for servicing or repairing your firearm under warranty, they even get paid on parts markup. Personally, from a business standpoint if we had the ability to service or warranty everything we would.

It's very profitable, look at car dealership for instance, a good service center can have a 90 to 115% absorption rate... How do you think they pay for everything, they don't pay curtailments and for 20 million dollar building on the sale of cars. I have never seen a dealership say they won't warranty your car because you didn't buy it from them. Jesus, they are filled with Service Advisers selling you everything you don't need.

The IRUNGUNS Team


Standingtall said:
You are reading WAY too much into it in my opinion. And if you buy one from a dealer that sourced it from BLS, I can guarantee IRG will not warranty it. Same as if you buy on from IRG, BLS will not warranty it. BLS is the official Canadian distributor, so IRG is a grey market importer in Canada for these... its fact, get over it.
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Free market in my eyes. The other company made their efforts known in obtaining the FRT, after that it’s up to the consumer to decide. For some that extra effort deserves business, even if it’s a few bucks more- for others not so much.
 
For all the people defending BLS, do you think they would have priced this firearm in the 400’s if IRG wasn’t offering them at the US price? No. These are businesses, not charities. Neither BLS or IRG are here to make friends.

I like to support Canadian business when I can, but I will not waste money doing so. If a cheaper option is available to me I will take it.
 
Blue line made it appear as if you wouldn’t get warranty if you bought it fromIRG.
Kinda like when the Stag came to market.
Also they said they had 10 years tied up in it,lots of money and time..

Then a couple of posts later it was 5 years.

They can go pound sand:)
 
Wal-Mart Greeter said:
For all the people defending BLS, do you think they would have priced this firearm in the 400’s if IRG wasn’t offering them at the US price? No. These are businesses, not charities. Neither BLS or IRG are here to make friends.

I like to support Canadian business when I can, but I will not waste money doing so. If a cheaper option is available to me I will take it.
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BLS GSG15 is priced at $499, and that's not available in the U.S, so I don't see why would the GSG16 be more expensive. Blue Line is usually good with prices, and their line of products have always been budget friendly and competitive. That whole argument if IRG was not bringing in guns is bologny, customers pay what they pay ... When I buy jeans, I buy the ones I can afford, not one's that I can't. Same with guns.
 
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