Unfair to Revolvers : barrel length

How should revolver barrel length be officially measured?

  • From muzzle to the end of forcing cone like what they do now.

    Votes: 2 28.6%

  • From muzzle to the recoil plate, this includes the cylinder.

    Votes: 5 71.4%
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If you take a semi-auto with 5" barrel, compare it to a revolver with 5" barrel, the revolver is always about 1.5" longer.

The barrel length for a semi-auto is measured from muzzle to breech. A revolver barrel length is NOT measured from muzzle to breech but from...well...simply one end to the other without including the cylinder.

Since the law of 104mm barrel length is to prevent handguns from being easy to conceal, it should only be able to roughly regulate the size of a handgun without prejudice. But revolvers just always have to be longer.
 
I think, before you can answer the question, you need the definition of a barrel.

If you take the barrel off of a revolver and off of a rifle, you are measuring the barrel, it happens that the barrel on the rifle contains the cartridge, you are still mearuring the OAL length of the barrel. But, with the revolver it's just the barrel and not the cartridge carrier (cylinder).

RePete.
 
since the accepted method for measuring the barrel, on rifles, shot guns and semi pistols, is to drop a dowel down the bore and read the length. it should apply to revolvers too. Sounds too simple I guess. :roll: Feds just cant think simple. remember the KISS principal, keep it simple stupid :wink:
 
Of course you can, but, All other firearms can be measured in there ready to fire , bolt closed etc condition, why not the revolvers? Because Allen Rock wanted to ban as many hand guns as he could get away with.
 
A semi-auto has to have room at the end of the barrel to chamber a round from the magazine. This adds the length of the slide and the overall length of the pistol.

A revolvers layout seems to have the grip made with larger angle causing the overall length of the revolver to be longer than the pistol:

Here is a 5" revolver:

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Here is a 5.3" Glock semi:

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The trigger guard on the revolver ends short of the chamber.

The trigger guard on the Glock entends a half inch beyond the end of the chamber positioing the the trigger and trigger guard well ahead of the trigger area on the revolver.

The semi-auto design is more compact than the revolver shown but need it be?
 
Its not a prejudice, its just parts. I suspect that the ruling came from the aftermarket parts debate. If you are changing a barrel on a semi, you change both the barrel and chamber. If you change the barrel on a revolver, you change just the barrel, and not the cylinder.
 
I believe it is a prejudice. If you look at a ruler, a 4" barrel is 102mm, just shy of the 105mm limit, and a long way from the nearest in either direction, 3, 3.5, or 5". At the time this was being kicked about by Kimmy and then Rock, police depts all over Canada were shucking their 4" service revolvers for Glocks, etc., and they didn't want these guns getting to ordinary civies. This way, they disappear with rest of the prohibs.
 
Exactly. It's DESIGNED to be unfair. You'll never see this change as an administrative fix. The whole law has to go, period.
 
First of all thanks to those who have supported revolver equality thus far, for seeing the unfairness in the current law.

But I guess some people are out to bring the revolvers down, I do not know why. Maybe that's how they choose to show affections toward semi-autos. We are discussing this as gun owners, not as pet owners, cat lovers and dog lovers diss each other's pets, we don't.

IF the law had wrote "Due to higher capacity reasons, semi-auto barrel length should exclude chamber. Revolvers are fine as long as the muzzle-breech length exceeds 104mm"

Then you'll be the one who's complaining because you can't even own a Colt 1911A1 without a prohib status if it happens.
 
skeetgunner said:
Its not a prejudice, its just parts. I suspect that the ruling came from the aftermarket parts debate. If you are changing a barrel on a semi, you change both the barrel and chamber. If you change the barrel on a revolver, you change just the barrel, and not the cylinder.
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Agreed ..

Parts is Parts....

Order a barrel for a revolver and thats what you get..a barrel...nothing to do with cylinder...
 
Revolver barrels have always been measured without the cylinder. The cylinder is not part of the barrel on a revolver. The chamber is and always has been part of the barrel on a semi.
The Socialist F**ks used this to make thousands of revolvers, evil, at once. It also serves them because it divides shooters even further. A handgun is a handgun. Who cares how long its barrel is, its calibre or how it works?
The whole law needs to be repealed. Not just parts of it.
 
The clever people who design those " clever gun law sucks big time. If they don't want conceal, then they better don't allow driving, bad guys drive and shoot the other guys from the car. Who need to conceal their firearms? just drive to the bank and take the gun inside. The barrel length is another joke. Guns should always measure in total length instead of barrel length. My P22 is five inches barrel but it is very small that can put inside my pocket. What is the point? A 3 inches barrel revolver is much bigger than a 5 inches barrel semi auto.
Funny things happen all over the place, just take it easy.
Trigun
 
I think you'd have a pretty uphill battle on this one, especially considering that the firearms manufacturers themselves do not include cylinder length in barrel length figures that they provide. Better off continuing to push for the trashcanning of C-68, in it's entirety.
 
If barrels were measured the other way suggested, then the law would have been a minimum barrel length of say, 130mm, and semi-auto shooters would have been even more screwed.

Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it. :x
 
The revolvers are measured right as they are…that’s not a problem. The problem is the 105mm law, I think it should be less for revolvers to compensate for the cylinder. The real question is; what can we do to change it to from 105mm to 102mmm (for revolvers)! :wink:

I started a thread about this a few moth ago, it didn't get far for some reason :|
 
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