Unissued Russian SKS

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bjs7293 said:
I find your statement clear and concise not much to be left open to interpretation. "New is New and Used is Used". It does not matter if a product has been manufactured 60 years ago and put into storage or 2 weeks ago it is still new. I find it strange that Westrifle the Russian SKS experts would have to ask the general public what "New/Unissued" means, when they are the experts. Why dosent Westrifle just sell their rifles either "New" or "Used" then all the confusion goes away.
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We do control the picking out process, but we do not control 60 years of storage and handling. There is always going to be unhappy customers by statistics 1-2 % on average in every industry.

Sergey


TheSteamingPile said:
they were packed in grease/cosmo and socked away, then taken out and inspected every 5 years or so. When these inspections were happening, they were touched, or handled. As they were military firearms in long term storage, I highly doubt the inspectors were too particular about how gentle they were with them. Therefore they may have some bumps and bruises. aka Handling Marks. This is just a way for Al to cover his butt if someone orders an 'unissued' firearm and it comes with a small ding or scrape.
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So, whats left on the website? Just numbers matching, or unissued? I see that 5 SKS are left online right now..
 
Got my matching numbers SKS today :) Looks great! Not too much cosmoline, looking forward to cleaning it all up, maybe sit down with some beer and get it done this weekend.
 
I dont want to stir the pot here but most of the SKS on the website look refurbished to me. If you look at the stocks where the date is stamped with the sn# you can see that the stain is much much lighter which leaves me to believe that the stocks were sanded down in those locations and re-stamped with the year and serial #. There are lots of Russian SKS's that are refurbished with no refurb marks from the factory. http://westrifle.com/wrstore/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=522
 
Missing refurbished mark. When it comes to stamping this mark on the top cover, the Russian hasn't been very consistent, they don't always mark their refurbs, I can't explain why but it is quite common. I’ve seen quite a few refurbished SKS that does not have a refurbishing mark on the top cover and yet, it’s obvious to me that the rifles had under gone major work. Some of the obvious signs are, the barrel is painted black when originally it was blued, the bolt carrier is painted black when originally it was bright steel finish and the rear sight leaf is grey when the blue been stripped.
So even if you don't see a refurbish mark, you can't assume it is not refurbished, you still need to look for other signs that your SKS has been worked on.

SIGNS OF REFURBISHING.

-Metal.
1. Refurbishing mark. There are two types of refurbishing marks: The most common is a square with a diagonal line and the other is a diamond shape (some with a "T" line inside). If your rifle has one of these markings on the top cover then your rifle has been refurbished.
2. Some of the obvious signs are the metal is painted black when originally its blued.
3. Carrier painted black when originally it was steel finish.
4. Bayonet is blued or park when originally is was silver.
5. Rear sight leaf is grey when originally it was blued.
6. Check the crown for re-bluing or paint, it should be bare steel.
7. Replacement parts not appropriate for the year it was produced.
8. File marks, edges not sharp.
9. Force matching serial numbers.
- Electro-penciled where stamped serial number suppose to be: top cover, mag, trigger guard, bolt and carrier.
- Old SN ground down and replaced by stamped or electro-penciled SN.
- Old SN ###ed out and new numbers stamped below it.
- Electro-penciled were painted over.
- Fonts of stamped numbers do not match the numbers on the side of receiver. eg: a "4" that is closed and "4" that is opened .
- Run your finger over the stamp serial number on the carrier, you should feel the raised edges and should the edges be flattened then it’s been buffed or sanded.

-Wood. Refurbished wood stock. Applies only to 1949-early 1955. Only 1955/56 came with both laminated and solid birch.
1. Recycling existing solid birch. The factory tech would ### out the old serial numbers and stamp a new set of matching numbers (this process is called forced matching).
2. Replacement laminated, laminated not original to the rifle.
3. Wood repairs.
4. Refurbishing mark.

Once your rifle passed the non-refurb test then you move to the next level "SIGNS OF FIRING " what you do here is to look for signs that your SKS has been fired.
 
No problem and I am not putting down Westrifles SKS's they are some of the best I have seen I have two ordered right now. Let me also refrase not all his are refurbs but all of the Izhevsk SKS's he had looked like the stocks were refurbed. I am just pointing this out and it's just an oppinion I may be wrong.
 
Here is one of the best websites for SKS info you can also email with pics and he will help you identify your SKS for you. If you like his site donate to it he pays for it out of his own pocket and does not profit off of it check it out http://www.yooperj.com/SKS-1.htm
 
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